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Rojo

join:2009-04-14
New York, NY
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[OS X] Router when no router?

My Network settings show a Router IP number.
However my cable modem is directly plugged into the iMac's Ethernet port, no router used.

Any idea why it shows "Router: 24.186.xx.x" ?

Cable/DHCP
OSX 10.6.8


Thinkdiff
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There are routers all over the internet. The IP you're seeing is the router at your ISP.
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Rojo

join:2009-04-14
New York, NY
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The router at OOL? Where is this router located?



vukodlak75
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reply to Rojo
Routers don't usually give out an ip with 24.


Rojo

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The first two sets match my IP number, the last two sets differ.



Thinkdiff
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reply to Rojo
Yes. Every network needs a router to.. route packets between different networks.

The router is most likely located at your local head-end/CMTS.
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Thinkdiff
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reply to vukodlak75

said by vukodlak75:

Routers don't usually give out an ip with 24.

It's the ISP's router. Not a consumer router doing NAT.
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Da Geek Kid

join:2003-10-11
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reply to Rojo
Cable modem is a router. A router is a device that converts the Cable/fiber/dsl to Ethernet. It also acts as a Gateway that provides IP address.

Your Cable modem might have been set/configured as a bridge and you are receiving the IP address provided by the ISP's routers to the Cable modem. I have this design.



Thinkdiff
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said by Da Geek Kid:

Cable modem is a router. A router is a device that converts the Cable/fiber/dsl to Ethernet. It also acts as a Gateway that provides IP address.

This is almost entirely incorrect. I'll give you that, under certain rare conditions, a cable modem can provide IP addresses. But that's it.
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donoreo
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said by Thinkdiff:

said by Da Geek Kid:

Cable modem is a router. A router is a device that converts the Cable/fiber/dsl to Ethernet. It also acts as a Gateway that provides IP address.

This is almost entirely incorrect. I'll give you that, under certain rare conditions, a cable modem can provide IP addresses. But that's it.

A Cable modem is actually a bridge.
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Thinkdiff
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Exactly. Motorola modems do have a special mode that distributes private IP addresses in the 192.168.100.x space when there's no cable connection, so I revised my post to give him that much. But the rest was wrong.
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Rojo

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It is a D3 Motorola



Da Geek Kid

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reply to vukodlak75
Routers never give out IP. It's the DHCP Server that does. A router can act as a DHCP Server if it is enabled for a particular interface.


Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ

reply to Rojo
I bet your Router address is:
24.186.xx.1

And that your IP is same first 3 octets and last is something larger than 1

And the field marked as Router is your gateway address

ot
I suggest you get a router soon as you can to make it harder for a knuckled to cause computer grief for you



Thinkdiff
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said by Liberty:

ot
I suggest you get a router soon as you can to make it harder for a knuckled to cause computer grief for you

Or at least make sure OS X's firewall is activated.
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vukodlak75
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reply to Thinkdiff
never mind me


Rojo

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reply to Liberty

said by Liberty:

I bet your Router address is:
24.186.xx.1

Correct.

And that your IP is same first 3 octets and last is something larger than 1

No. Yes.

And the field marked as Router is your gateway address

How do I tell?

ot
I suggest you get a router soon as you can to make it harder for a knuckled to cause computer grief for you

Hmm... »Legit OpenDNS Cert?


Liberty

join:2005-06-12
Tucson, AZ

I usually see IP the way I 'bet' but doesn't always apply

I understand WAN network router address and gateway are the same thing

Unless you have a router in your house then you will see your computer's gateway becomes your router's address - the router's gateway is the network router's address - supplied by the modem
That is one of the things a router does for you - to keep a hardware separation between you and internet

Not disputing having ones firewall up helps very much...


Rojo

join:2009-04-14
New York, NY
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My Mac's firewall is always on.
Also always on is DNSCrypt/SSL and Ghostery.

Do you know what ProcessID600 on Safari is? I'm getting a lot of opened ports with that. Also PID1598.

Is there an app that will instantly and selectively close ports you choose?



Thinkdiff
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reply to Liberty

said by Liberty:

Unless you have a router in your house then you will see your computer's gateway becomes your router's address - the router's gateway is the network router's address - supplied by the modem

Modems don't supply IP addresses under normal operation. They are bridges, as mentioned earlier.
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