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Re: [Cable] Rogers cable vs Teksavvy said by videonerd:LOL.. yes, call me out on the BS math:
Teksavvy ($46.95/mth x 12) + $45 act + $109 modem + tax = $810.66
Rogers (($61.99/2) x 12) +tax = $420.29
I don't use bittorrent or Netflix, so if $390 isn't that much to you I'd appreciate it if you can EMT me some money so I can go with TS! 
My math would be more like this, considering the OP stays on the Rogers offer he mentioned, compared to the 18Mbps Tek offer:
TSI: (39.95 x 12) + $45 act + $109 modem + tax = $715 = 18/.5 300GB cap per month + no contract + personally owned modem
Rogers (($61.99/2) x 12) +tax = $420.29 + mid-contract price increases to be announced later = 28/1 120 GB monthly cap, price only verbally agreed to, look forward to haggling later.
So, that's a $300 price difference, with a modem that retails for $100 everywhere, so in the end, for one year, you're talking $200 for 3x the monthly usage and no contract, though 18/.5 vs 28/1, but if you're a light user I doubt many can tell the difference. Obviously the setup and modem purchase are one-time fees you won't pay year after year, if you're planning to keep it for a few years. On the Rogers side, look forward to price increases rolled into your 'contract'.
It's still money, so I would definitely explore other options like Distributel, Acanac, Start, which might be more economical. Also to be considered is that you're comparing Rogers 'promotional' pricing to the everyday price of others. Keep in mind Rogers goal is to lock you into the higher prices in some way.
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I was happy with Rogers for years but then they transitioned to speed, price and bandwidth caps being tied together. The result was the lower tiers having tiny caps and combined with the hassle to get a discount each year drove me away. This is where Teksavvy is much better as it offers low speed and low price but with a high cap.
I pay $30.95+tax for 3mb/25kkpbs with a 300gb cap which is $420/year including tax. It matches my usage better than any of the current Rogers packages and there is no hassle trying to get a discount every year.
If Rogers offers a heavily discounted plan that matches your usage I would say seriously consider it.
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| said by BrianON:I was happy with Rogers for years but then they transitioned to speed, price and bandwidth caps being tied together. The result was the lower tiers having tiny caps and combined with the hassle to get a discount each year drove me away. This is where Teksavvy is much better as it offers low speed and low price but with a high cap.
I pay $30.95+tax for 3mb/25kkpbs with a 300gb cap which is $420/year including tax. It matches my usage better than any of the current Rogers packages and there is no hassle trying to get a discount every year.
If Rogers offers a heavily discounted plan that matches your usage I would say seriously consider it.
TBH if you consider it, 3mbit is 15 years ago. Though it meets your needs that goes to say the same for Rogers, Bell, Telus, Cogeco, Videotron, 3web, teksavvy and whoever else i'm missing (brainfart).
You really shouldn't be paying $30 for a 3meg connection. In comparison to todays standards/speeds that is a massively inflated product (not flaming TSI or anyone, just a general statement)
What's the point in a slow connection and high cap, you'll never truly utilize an "unlimited" plan for example.
Now for my wifes office connection upstairs with her 75meg line, 2meg up, 250gig cap. We have netflix running quite a bit a month with our shows, movies and especially for my son. No issues with the cap.
I should also note i even download off astraweb newsgroups and these newsgruops if i wanted to i could hit my cap in 1 hour but even then i don't. I don't download porn, apps or games but i do download stuff we may have missed. (i hate commercials)
Though i find 250 gig small to what it costs per MB/GB to the ISPs it's bad at all. 50 gigs shy of what TSI offers. It's not always about maxing out your connection for as hard and as long as you can. I like when i need something, i need it quick.
We cancelled our TSI DSL awhile ago to have our house rewired and went cell phones only. Once our reno is finished i'll be reestablishing the TSI DSL + home phone again just to support them. (Secondary ISP if you will for my business)
As for getting a deal again with Rogers it's easy, threaten to leave and you get a deal almost always.
I still believe in what Rocky/Marc started, i don't think the big 3 would really have cared much if Teksavvy didn't open some doors.
Like you said though, all depends on what you need. I personally find those 3meg connections absolutely pointless. For mobile hotspot it's great, but for home, what a waste. |
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I REALLY believe that Rogers messes with Teksavvy connections.
I am not sure why Teksavvy is not more vocal or aggressive with Rogers' interference. But, I am pretty sure I'm being throttled and my connection gets really slow especially at night. But, it varies.
I have no choice to contact Teksavvy (soon) but I think much of the blame rests with Rogers. My complaint is that not enough is done to expose Rogers. I don't see why it can't be easily proven and that they can express to the CRTC or whoever what's going on. This is ***************.
I'm paying over $40/mth for substandard speed and this is unacceptable. I think DSL customers have the same problem but with Bell. |
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North York, ON | reply to videonerd
I think the OP just needs to sit down and figure out what's good for them. That is a lot of saving and I wouldn't see how it would hurt if they tried Rogers for 1 year. He likes TSI so he'll be back when the price makes sense for him.
I wouldn't count the modem purchase into the math. It's a one-time investment.
They can always switch back after 1 year. IF you're planning on leaving/cancelling within that one year though, TSI is your obvious choice. |
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said by Ontarionet:I REALLY believe that Rogers messes with Teksavvy connections. I've had TSI Cable for 2 years now. Basically it's been like this. When there is sufficient POI capacity, there's no issues at all.
Rogers doesn't mess with the traffic, but they are incredibly slow at upgrading the POI capacity. |
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said by Ontarionet:I REALLY believe that Rogers messes with Teksavvy connections.
I am not sure why Teksavvy is not more vocal or aggressive with Rogers' interference. But, I am pretty sure I'm being throttled and my connection gets really slow especially at night. But, it varies.
I have no choice to contact Teksavvy (soon) but I think much of the blame rests with Rogers. My complaint is that not enough is done to expose Rogers. I don't see why it can't be easily proven and that they can express to the CRTC or whoever what's going on. This is ***************.
I'm paying over $40/mth for substandard speed and this is unacceptable. I think DSL customers have the same problem but with Bell.
I think you need a tin foil hat. |
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said by Tx:TBH if you consider it, 3mbit is 15 years ago. Though it meets your needs that goes to say the same for Rogers, Bell, Telus, Cogeco, Videotron, 3web, teksavvy and whoever else i'm missing (brainfart).
You really shouldn't be paying $30 for a 3meg connection. In comparison to todays standards/speeds that is a massively inflated product (not flaming TSI or anyone, just a general statement) The other providers don't have packages that meet my needs (low cost, high cap, speed optional). That is why Teksavvy and competition in general is good. It provides more options for people to find something that meets their needs at a good price. Sometimes that would mean going with Rogers, the higher end packages are pretty good and can often been gotten at a steep discount with low or no upfront costs.
The 3mbs isn't really old school 3mbs since SpeedBoost makes it around 9mbs for a lot of general usage like web surfing. |
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One of the many 'benefits' of having Teksavvy Cable in a Rogers market is always having to wonder if Rogers will cut you off, either by blacklisting your modem or just by *snip!*.
Then you have the pleasure of waiting about a week to get your service back. Two days for Rogers to respond to Teksavvy's request, then another two days after that to respond to the first response.
As much as I hate to say it, you're probably better off with Rogers if you are that hell bent on getting cable internet. With Teksavvy, it's just a matter of time before you get cut off, to which your ISP is completely powerless to prevent. |
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| That happened once to me, and it was promptly rectified. Rogers of course, wouldn't accept any blame (even though I explicitly told them when I cancelled it was because I was going with TPIA), and this didn't happen the day it cancelled but a YEAR later. Proves to me that Rogers doesn't know/care about what its doing. I got it fixed, and am happy. Teksavvy forever! or until I move to country that's less nuts (like Japan: 300mb per second, 30 a month) |
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Contracts might help pricing, but they definitely don't in terms of stability and customer care. In fact, companies are even MORE likely to decrease resources dedicated to those area's when they know they have you legally on the hook....It ain't rocket science 
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| Well guess who has his tail between his legs....
With the mess of cancellation Rogers made of Home Phone and Cable ("rep" says I only cancelled the digital box but not cable, continued incessant automated calls to install Home Phone,) I just decided to cancel everything all together.
Teksavvy, you got me. |
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I realize pricing speaks to some people but there is a real danger that Rogers will only offer competitive pricing while alternatives exist.
$390/year is a lot of money. |
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