Mr Matt
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| Just back from the 1860's!  I just returned from the 1860's in my time machine and was surprised that the Federal Government has taken action against the Railroad Robber Barrons. Apparently those scum bags were discriminating against businesses they did not like when the business owners asked them to haul their freight. They charged unaffordable rates to those business men that they did not like and cheap rates to business men they did like. In fact one Railroad prick refused to haul newsprint to a newspaper that wrote negative stories about their Railroad. Apparently Americans got enough of this B.S. and demanded relief. As a result the Interstate Commerce Commission was formed to regulate the rules and pricing for hauling of freight. So regulating monopoly pigs that set rates to discriminate against businesses or competitors that must use their services is not unprecedented. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Mr Matt:In fact one Railroad prick refused to haul newsprint to a newspaper that wrote negative stories about their Railroad. Why is this a bad thing?
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Sammer
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Canonsburg, PA | said by pnh102:said by Mr Matt:In fact one Railroad prick refused to haul newsprint to a newspaper that wrote negative stories about their Railroad. Why is this a bad thing? Because railroads use or cross public right of ways it is against the common good just as refusing to serve a person in a restaurant just because they're black is. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Sammer:Because railroads use or cross public right of ways it is against the common good just as refusing to serve a person in a restaurant just because they're black is. A lot of railroads in the 19th century used land that was privately purchased by the railroad company or owned by private interests. I could agree with you that if the railroad was using publicly owned right of ways then you can make the case to compel them to provide service.
But outside of that, there should be no such compulsion. Now I wouldn't agree with a company refusing to provide service to a paying customer, but any company should have that right, no matter what anyone else thinks.
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
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said by Sammer:Because railroads use or cross public right of ways it is against the common good just as refusing to serve a person in a restaurant just because they're black is.
It has nothing to do with "public rights of way", but a lot to do with "public accommodation". Any enterprise offering goods, or services, to the public cannot discriminate in some arbitrary manner.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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San Jose, CA
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said by pnh102:Now I wouldn't agree with a company refusing to provide service to a paying customer, but any company should have that right, no matter what anyone else thinks.
Indeed. No blacks served in the main dining area should fly, eh? Italians only on the third level concourse.
WRT the RRs, they were discriminating on the basis of who was shipping. Despite that the cost of hauling Farmer Jack's produce was no higher than the cost of hauling Farmer Jones' produce, if those old Robber Barons didn't like Farmer, they would charge him more to haul his produce.
Data caps are the contemporary analog to such discriminatory, and predatory practices.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by NormanS:Indeed. No blacks served in the main dining area should fly, eh? Italians only on the third level concourse.
If you don't like how a particular company does business then shop elsewhere.
What right do you have to tell a private business that they must do business with someone else? The last time private individuals were forced to supply others with their labor, it was called slavery.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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kudos:9 | said by pnh102:If you don't like how a particular company does business then shop elsewhere.
I have already done that!  (Check my reviews.)
What right do you have to tell a private business that they must do business with someone else? The last time private individuals were forced to supply others with their labor, it was called slavery.
But once a company decides to get into the "public accommodation" business, be it serving food, renting beds, hauling freight, or slinging datagrams, they place themselves under government purview; the purpose being to ensure that ALL members of the public are treated equitably.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by NormanS:But once a company decides to get into the "public accommodation" business, be it serving food, renting beds, hauling freight, or slinging datagrams, they place themselves under government purview; the purpose being to ensure that ALL members of the public are treated equitably. And on what grounds does the government have this authority? Where in the US Constitution does it state that the federal government has the authority to compel a private entity to provide service to anyone for a set price?
The 13th amendment outlaws slavery and other forms of involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime. The act of being forced to provide goods and services to a specific group of people, against the wishes of the person in question, most definitely falls under that categorization.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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kudos:9 | So I guess that the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890 and the Fair Housing Act of 1968 violate the Thirteenth Amendment (which, by the way, rationally applies only to "natural persons").
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