Slashdot Asks why isn't anyone using KDE?

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El Quintron Resident Mouth Breather Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·WIND Mobile ·voip.ms	Slashdot Asks why isn't anyone using KDE? Although there are probably a few slashdotters on here already, I figured the question was worth asking. »tech.slashdot.org/story/12/06/11···ning-kde Running answer seems to be that since Gnome went to the dogs, XFCE is a better alternative. Your thoughts? -- Everything in moderation... Including Moderation --Oscar Wilde
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No_Strings Premium,Mod join:2001-11-22 The OC kudos:6 Host: Wireless Networking All Things Unix Cox HSI Efficient Southwest Chat	said by El Quintron: Running answer seems to be that since Gnome went to the dogs, XFCE is a better alternative. That's sort of where I am. I was using XFCE4 before it was cool (what it's not cool?) but I always installed full KDE and GNOME desktops because I liked some of their apps. When KDE4 first hit, it was a mess and I stayed away for a while. It's quite nice now, but I'm clumsy with it for lack of practice. GNOME was always less appealing than the other two choices mentioned and I rarely used it as a DE. When my sons were younger, they both used Linux. Before school and app issues pushed them away, one preferred KDE, the other GNOME. The youngest (GNOME) went to Mac, the oldest (KDE) fled to Windows. There's probably a lesson in there ... somewhere.
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El Quintron Resident Mouth Breather Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·WIND Mobile ·voip.ms	said by No_Strings: When KDE4 first hit, it was a mess and I stayed away for a while. It's quite nice now, but I'm clumsy with it for lack of practice. Funny you should mention that, I can't for the love of me set up a client VPN on it, which is the reason I never fully adopted it. Some of the stuff the like the multiple monitor settings were a little termpermental but usually got up and running but that VPN issue dogged me until I went to another DE (usually Unity) EQ -- Everything in moderation... Including Moderation --Oscar Wilde
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EUS Kill cancer Premium join:2002-09-10 canada Reviews: ·voip.ms	reply to El Quintron I run KDE4, and I don't know why, oh yeah, I like Amarok, that and the new gnome makes me want to turn off the computer forever. In a multi-user home desktop setting, KDE has problems that sometimes make me want to chuck it all out the window. Phonon is shit. Multi-user login/logout is shit. Multiple users trying to use sound is shit. Dolphin crashing is shit, c'mon it's a file browser, and KDE can't even get that right (still!) Not being able to paste something to the desktop is, yep, shit. There are other nuisances, that pile up, go away after an update, then come back after another update. When I find the time, I'll probably end up trying XFCE, then listen to my wife complain that the "computer looks different again". And yet, I'd rather go though all the shit, and complaints than run even a pirated version of windows. It's nearing the end of my workday, and yes I'm grumpy, but I'll calls 'em like I sees 'em. KDE4 has been out too ling for all the problems to still be occurring. -- ~ Project Hope ~
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graysonf Premium,MVM join:1999-07-16 Fort Lauderdale, FL	reply to El Quintron Well, the first early releases of KDE 4 left such a bad (shit) taste in my mouth I haven't had the desire to try again. I'm stuck on KDE 3.5.4 and happy.
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firephoto Facts hurt Premium join:2003-03-18 Brewster, WA	reply to El Quintron It always seems like there are just more comments and discussion about the lesser used desktops and distros which to the non-commenter can give the impression that something might be more widely used that it actually is. It's like reddit and Arch Linux. From a North American perspective you don't have much KDE work being done here. There are a fair number of devs but their numbers are dwarfed by those in Europe which is where all the big KDE distros are from except for Slackware and the Fedora KDE variant. This leads to a little bias in the US tech media since it's more fun to report about the desktop that the guy you had drinks or lunch with makes or uses. The reality of it is that a person using something that does what they need and is reasonably trouble free doesn't spend time discussing it. I was thinking the other day about how I don't post much in forums about KDE or file bug reports and it mostly comes down to not having any major issues to ask questions about or file bugs. It does what it's suppose to do and that can lead to boredom and lack of talking about it. If it needed new users to survive then you would see an endless stream of supporters talking about exciting things it does but it doesn't need this or those kind of people thankfully. I'd go so far to say that it probably attracts the kind of people that can focus on the results rather than getting upset about the color of the hammer driving the nails. -- Say no to JAMS!
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kleeman Australian Expat join:2000-07-29 Nyack, NY kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to El Quintron I use cinnamon. It is pretty much a slick version of gnome 2 and is easy on the eyes too. It irritates me that the gnome 3 backbone is still there though. For some reason gnome devs think that less is better when it come to configuration which is pretty damned annoying at times. I tried KDE 4.7 and just did not like it. It felt clunky and overblown. Christ its only a desktop guys not a bloody software opus. -- Aesthetics should be an inspiration not a pair of handcuffs
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El Quintron Resident Mouth Breather Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·WIND Mobile ·voip.ms	said by kleeman: I use cinnamon. It is pretty much a slick version of gnome 2 and is easy on the eyes too. I did try cinnamon on Ubuntu but I think it was still a little rough around the edges... -- Everything in moderation... Including Moderation --Oscar Wilde
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rexbinary Mod King Premium join:2005-01-26 Plano, TX Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to El Quintron I'm happy with Gnome 3.4 currently. I tried KDE Plasma Netbook on my Eee PC. It was somewhat cool, but much slower than Gnome 3.4. I have been going back and forth with the idea of KDE Plasma Desktop on my desktop PC as it has the horsepower to run it well, but I just seem to keep going back to Gnome 3.4. For me, the only real challenge with Gnome 3 I had was getting used to not minimizing windows, and it really didn't take me that long to get over it. I don't dislike KDE, nor XFCE or LXDE for that matter, and I might end up with KDE 4 on my desktop. It just hasn't happened yet, and I'm not sure it will. -- Verizon FiOS subscriber since 2005 \| Mac owner since 1990 \| Fedora user since 2006 \| CentOS user since 2007 \| "Anyone who is unwilling to learn is entitled to absolutely nothing." - graysonf \| EDIT: I seldom post without an edit.
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Rexter YeeHaw join:2002-11-17 cloud 9	reply to El Quintron I've just found KDE to be sluggish and unstable. The last time I liked KDE was when I was running Mandrake 10. I've tried it several times in recent years, both in Linux Mint, and Suse, even kubuntu. It just doesn't work well for me. I also don't understand the sentiment that Gnome went to the dogs. Sure the default interface has changed, but hey, it's open, you don't have to use the default. -- I'm with the Central Government. I'm here to help you. Now bend over, really, I'm helping you, just, just stay still. You'll feel better in a moment.
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Brano I hate Vogons Premium,MVM join:2002-06-25 Burlington, ON kudos:6 Reviews: ·Bell Fibe	reply to rexbinary I use KDE4 and don't really have any problems nor desire to look at something else. Yes, I agree, the early KDE4 versions were shit, but I can't complain now (not even sure on what version I am ... whatever comes with openSUSE 12.1). I really love KDE, digikam, kdenlive, dolphin ...just checked, the version is 4.7.2
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TuxRaiderPen join:2009-09-19	reply to EUS said by EUS: I run KDE4, and I don't know why, oh yeah, I like Amarok, that and the new gnome makes me want to turn off the computer forever. Well I run KDE, and have for a over a decade... The whole KDE 4.x mess tried my faith and patience with KDE.. but there is nothing to take its place... that other piece of crud... no chance! Even before they commited the same sins as KDE 4. KDE 4.5 or so was when things seems to have settle back to stable ala 3.5.10.. unfortunatley they had to continue to mess with things and borq up KMail (and no thunderchicken is not an option for me!) import is so fubar'd it doesn't work, the whole akondaicrud fiasco... and nepocrap... this is real problem to upgrade my main machine that does email etc.. I liked Amarok.. but since its changes ... no more... I just use VLC... I want my media player to just play what I tell it to be it streams, or local files.. I don't want it do anything fancy with them. Just play what I tell it! g[censored] was never an option... for a lot of reasons... like hiding every damn option for the system from users... really? said by EUS: In a multi-user home desktop setting, KDE has problems that sometimes make me want to chuck it all out the window. Phonon is shit. Multi-user login/logout is shit. Elaborate... as I don't see issues with either... said by EUS: Multiple users trying to use sound is shit. Does this work on any Linux distro where user x gets user x's sound and ONLY their sound? That would require some sort of virtulization of the sound card, server etc... which I am not aware of in any Linux distro....have not investigated it either... So does any act "correctly" in this area? When I use my laptop to XDMCP into my box I can hear the sound in the room over. I always sort of got a chuckle out of it... but I guess it may not be so amusing in some situations.... said by EUS: Dolphin crashing is shit, c'mon it's a file browser, and KDE can't even get that right (still!) well I don't use that piece of feces, period. Konqi only! IT is the BROWSER! Embrace the KONQI! said by EUS: Not being able to paste something to the desktop is, yep, shit. What ? ? Elaborate? ? I don't get it what would you paste to the desktop? ? ? said by EUS: And yet, I'd rather go though all the shit, and complaints than run even a pirated version of windows. DING DING DING DING! Winner! said by EUS: It's nearing the end of my workday, and yes I'm grumpy, but I'll calls 'em like I sees 'em. KDE4 has been out too ling for all the problems to still be occurring. Hey now.. your starting tread on my grass! ! ! I am the resident grouchy jerk here! ! ! ! Now get off my grass!
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timcuth Braves Fan Premium join:2000-09-18 Pelham, AL	reply to El Quintron I haven't tried KDE in years, but the long term reason I don't use it is because it reminded me so much of Windows. Tim
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wmcbrine 213 251 145 96 join:2002-12-30 Laurel, MD kudos:1	reply to El Quintron I used KDE back in my Mandrake days, and when I switched to Ubuntu, I started using Gnome -- in each case, the standard environment for the distro. I never really made an active choice between desktop environments per se. In retrospect, KDE was kind of ugly. But that was a long time ago. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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kleeman Australian Expat join:2000-07-29 Nyack, NY kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to El Quintron said by El Quintron: said by kleeman: I use cinnamon. It is pretty much a slick version of gnome 2 and is easy on the eyes too. I did try cinnamon on Ubuntu but I think it was still a little rough around the edges... Yeah the versions before 1.4 were pretty buggy. Hardly ever a problem with the latest version. -- Aesthetics should be an inspiration not a pair of handcuffs
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El Quintron Resident Mouth Breather Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·WIND Mobile ·voip.ms	reply to wmcbrine said by wmcbrine: In retrospect, KDE was kind of ugly. But that was a long time ago. I haven't been using KDE for long enough to remember an ugly KDE, I've always found it pretty, but I never put the time, so I never got good at being fast with it. -- Everything in moderation... Including Moderation --Oscar Wilde
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El Quintron Resident Mouth Breather Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·WIND Mobile ·voip.ms	reply to timcuth said by timcuth: I haven't tried KDE in years, but the long term reason I don't use it is because it reminded me so much of Windows. Tim I was using Mepis during the 11.04 lifecycle and that version of KDE had the exact look and feel of Windows... in fact, that's why I stopped using it. -- Everything in moderation... Including Moderation --Oscar Wilde
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El Quintron Resident Mouth Breather Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2	reply to kleeman It's my next build... do you know if it works with Bumblebee for nvidia optimus? -- Everything in moderation... Including Moderation --Oscar Wilde
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kleeman Australian Expat join:2000-07-29 Nyack, NY kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	Not sure but it does need some video acceleration so that would depend on the driver I guess. Edit: Bumblebee supports the proprietary nvidia driver so my revised guess would be yes. -- Aesthetics should be an inspiration not a pair of handcuffs
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leibold Premium,MVM join:2002-07-09 Sunnyvale, CA kudos:6	reply to El Quintron I'm using KDE, but I'm not as much a fan of it as I was with KDE 3.x (which some of my systems are still running).
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