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Re: Ergen is an idiot said by coldmoon: quote:
...Is your goal to destroy TV? Nobody has ever given a way for this industry to function with NO MONEY coming in.
And how is this different than any other disruptive market force in the past? The industry cries "but..but...we will not make any money...", then ends up making even more money when they got with the program and delivered what people wanted. Please park the waaaambulance and turn in your keys in to the day clerk... Sure, the broadcasters will find a way to make money, but you may not like it.
Ads in the shows themselves with more blatant product placement (they're doing this with talk radio right now) and the general cheapening of TV will be accelerated if conventional ad spots die off. Or they might simply do like HBO and charge $15 extra for a set of networks.
TV is not a charity. You are not the customer. You are the PRODUCT. The purpose of commercial TV is to sell advertising, and TV stations are selling your eyeballs to advertisers. |
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| said by fifty nine: You are not the customer. You are the PRODUCT. The purpose of commercial TV is to sell advertising, and TV stations are selling your eyeballs to advertisers.
then why do i need to pay to have my time and attention sold to someone else?
if viewers are the product, they should be the one's getting paid. |
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...TV is not a charity. You are not the customer. You are the PRODUCT. The purpose of commercial TV is to sell advertising, and TV stations are selling your eyeballs to advertisers....
Ymmm - meat product. I have been called a lot of things in my life, but this has to be the least accurate. It is also a serious root cause of the industry's lack of understanding regarding the backlash that is starting and gaining momentum.
As I said previously - put the pedal to metal and let's see who ends up being right in the end... 
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said by fifty nine:The purpose of commercial TV is to sell advertising Hey, that's the same purpose The Press has.
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Lancaster, PA | reply to fifty nine
And what about shows like Holmes On Homes and more recently Holmes Inspection? This show depends on advertising to help renovate and repair homes. A recent episode I saw would have cost the Homeowner over $300,000 to fix all the foundation and structure issues. They still had to pay 10-15% but 30,000-45,000 is much better then $300,000. This show would exist without advertising. |
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| said by lancguy:And what about shows like Holmes On Homes and more recently Holmes Inspection? This show depends on advertising to help renovate and repair homes. A recent episode I saw would have cost the Homeowner over $300,000 to fix all the foundation and structure issues. They still had to pay 10-15% but 30,000-45,000 is much better then $300,000. This show would exist without advertising.
The usual run of network ads are not the only way Mike could finance his show and cause. The suppliers and contractors have a real incentive to provide their latest materials, products, and services. IFO would not mind seeing episodes where more time was spent with the contractors and Mike/Mike's construction lead going deeper into the details of what was wrong, why it was done wrong, and how they are going to fix the problems. Also, I wouldn't mind having the same people discuss their qualifications, experience, and how the viewer could hire them for their projects.
Just finding a good contractor is hard enough with the way the industry is set up and works at the local level. How much would it be worth to the contractors Mike brings in to have the show be real advertising for their businesses through example rather than the usual marketing and irrelevant commercial interruptions?
JMHO
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