 JRW2R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, Max and Zen.Premium
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| Simple solution... If they didn't have five plus minutes of commercials every ten minutes, and cut them down to about one to one and a half minutes, I wouldn't bother skipping.
Also, bring back commercials that are NOT an insult to my intelligence and I might watch them too.
It's NOT rocket science here folks.
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium
join:2000-01-13
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| Their formula now seems to be 15 minutes for ever hour, so that hour show only lasted 45 minutes with 15 minutes of commercials. It is out of hand how they have made the shows shorter, and commercials longer.
I think the worst have to be the commercials trying to sell you prescription products, they are boring, and if you actually listen to them... "Relieves dry eyes... may cause serious side effects such as organ damage, suicidal thoughts, and death. May cause birth defects..." Wow, that's so much better than having dry eyes...
For what little tv I watch now I dvr it, and watch it later while skipping the commercials thirty seconds at a time. I wouldn't even have paid tv if it wasn't for the miss as what little tv I do watch I can watch online, otherwise it's cheaper to buy the dvd set if I really like it so I can watch the show unedited without commercials.
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| It is more than that it is 18 mins every hour. And the time seems to be growing more and more. It is very interesting to go back and look at the run times of shows and see how much more commercial time they have added at the same time increasing carrage fees. |
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 jmn1207Premium
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I think it is pushing closer to 20 minutes for every hour. I've watched a series like Lost on Netflix, and the episodes are 42 minutes long, including the credit rolls at the end of the show. Since the networks seem to like flashing the credits by in a little window while showing advertisements, that's probably another minute or 2 that gets appointed to additional sales pitches. |
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said by Qreptiles:It is more than that it is 18 mins every hour. And the time seems to be growing more and more. It is very interesting to go back and look at the run times of shows and see how much more commercial time they have added at the same time increasing carrage fees.
its 18mins of ads per non-prime time hour. Prime time TV shows are only 32 or 28 minutes long now, with about half of the hour long time slots going to ads. Its the reason I have a DVR now, because the freaking ads are annoying. I will never watch a live TV event, because i dont want to watch the ads that insult my intelligence and assume that I care who is selling what. |
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Go watch a TV show from 10 years ago, and then watch one from today. An hour long time slot gets between a 28 and 42 minute show, and a 30 minute time slot is getting a 19 or 21 minute show now.
As an example, mythbusters episodes from season 1 and 2 were 48 minutes long. Now, the hour long time slot shows are only 33 minutes long. I dont pay for TV to watch ads, thus, im not going to watch them. I compare this to the pop-up wars on the internet from the late 90s. We found a way to kill the popups, just like we found a way to kill the ads, and what did the industry do? they added more popups trying to get around popup blockers, so thusly, they have added more commercial/ad space to their timeslots. How long before its a timeslot of commercials with an 18 minute show? |
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BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium
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| When it comes to the internet, we don't pay for most sites so we accept some ads, we accept ads for ota tv as we don't pay for that either. When we pay for tv, and we have to accept as much advertising as the content we want to watch it doesn't make sense. They are being paid for their content on a large scale, and far too often advertisers control what the channels provide as content.
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I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires- Susan B. Anthony
Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent out necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G. |
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NCIS episodes are 41-44 mins on last season. I just checked to make sure because I had those shows handy. Most are 42-43 which is 17 or 18 mins and that is on one of the most popular scripted shows in primetime. |
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Huh, well that would explain that. When checking the guide a week or two ago I recorded two Mythbusters episodes, after having not seen the show in a long time. I thought I was hitting the fast-forward button an awful lot more than usual.
The worst advertising abuse I've ever seen was a few months ago when I tried watching an old episode of "Murder, She Wrote" on the TV Land channel (don't judge, my mom loved the series years ago and I found it vaguely interesting and decided to watch one episode on my own). Wikipedia says that the hour-long programs had 40 minutes of actual content, which isn't the best ratio but not too terrible. Then I realized that the listing on the TV guide wasn't for 60 minutes, but for 72. There were 40 minutes of programming for 32 minutes of advertising, or as a percentage, 44% of the runtime of this rerun was taken up by commercials. I noticed that several of the commercial breaks weren't even included in the original program, which greatly broke up the story's flow. Why on earth would I bother watching this program live, actually watching the commercials, when my viewing experience has been so completely !@#$ upon? |
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The more popular shows bring in more advertising revenue per commercial, which is why they can have longer runtimes even with higher production costs. The episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation that I have on my computer are almost universally between 42 and 43 minutes each, while each episode cost upwards of 1 million dollars, and this was back in 1994 at the very latest.
It's the less popular shows that require so much more advertising to recoup their low budgets. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Chubbysumo
said by Chubbysumo:said by Qreptiles:It is more than that it is 18 mins every hour. And the time seems to be growing more and more. It is very interesting to go back and look at the run times of shows and see how much more commercial time they have added at the same time increasing carrage fees.
its 18mins of ads per non-prime time hour. Prime time TV shows are only 32 or 28 minutes long now, with about half of the hour long time slots going to ads. Its the reason I have a DVR now, because the freaking ads are annoying. I will never watch a live TV event, because i dont want to watch the ads that insult my intelligence and assume that I care who is selling what. Those annoying ads pay for those shows you love so much. I'm not sure why you expect people to provide you entertainment for free? Do you work for free? If networks aren't allowed to make money form ads they'll make money some other way. Some way you can't get around and will end up costing you more $$$$. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to Chubbysumo
said by Chubbysumo:Go watch a TV show from 10 years ago, and then watch one from today. An hour long time slot gets between a 28 and 42 minute show,
BS. There isn't an hour long show that is only 28 minutes. Most are about the same and they about the same as they were in 2002. |
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said by BF69:Those annoying ads pay for those shows you love so much. I'm not sure why you expect people to provide you entertainment for free? Do you work for free? If networks aren't allowed to make money form ads they'll make money some other way. Some way you can't get around and will end up costing you more $$$$.
There is very little meaningful content these days, so what exactly are those ads paying for other than to line the pockets of the execs? Shows arent that expensive to produce and market now, and I also pay for cable TV, so, why should I watch ads? Same as the internet based ads(that I have blocked with AB+). I pay for my internet connection, I should not have to view crappy ads that are injected for pure profit by my ISP, nor should I have to help support a site by hurting my eyes and ears from those flashing noisy ads.
Either way, in most cases today, the actual shows are as valueless as the ads. Lets get a-la-mode channels so that I can choose to only pay for the 12 channels I actually watch, and let the rest of the subsidized crappy content die, so that we can actually get quality content produced again. |
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said by Qreptiles:NCIS episodes are 41-44 mins on last season. I just checked to make sure because I had those shows handy. Most are 42-43 which is 17 or 18 mins and that is on one of the most popular scripted shows in primetime.
All I hear on those popular shows is "brought to you with limited commercial interruption by "product company"". They are only that long because an advertiser is garnering your attention by buying up all the ad space and then letting the show run longer.
commercial breaks get longer and longer all the time. Its only a matter of time before it self implodes because people quit watching shows because the adverts are so annoying, its cheaper and easier to shut the TV off. Longer adverts just drives more to DVR it/record it, or just pirate it without any ads at all. |
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said by Chubbysumo:Shows arent that expensive to produce and market now, and I also pay for cable TV, so, why should I watch ads?
How much does it cost to produce and market a one hour program for network prime time TV? |
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| said by Rangersfan :said by Chubbysumo:Shows arent that expensive to produce and market now, and I also pay for cable TV, so, why should I watch ads?
How much does it cost to produce and market a one hour program for network prime time TV? definitely not as much as the current gravy train brings in. Between payments from ads, and payments from retrans and other stuff, im betting that they make tons.
The other problem lies in that if the ads disappear, they need to make proportionally more content, which costs proportionally more, so they would need to find another way to recoup some of those increased costs(which probably wouldnt be too much, but they like their profit margin to remain the same), which would mean increased retrans fees. To hell with the current model, I want my a-la-carte channels, this in and of itself would kill crappy content, because if its not drawing viewers, the channel would die pretty fast. |
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said by BF69:said by Chubbysumo:Go watch a TV show from 10 years ago, and then watch one from today. An hour long time slot gets between a 28 and 42 minute show,
BS. There isn't an hour long show that is only 28 minutes. Most are about the same and they about the same as they were in 2002. It looks like a typo. From the rest of the post, it's clear to me Chubbysumo meant: ... 38 and 42 minute show... |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FiOS
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said by JRW2:If they didn't have five plus minutes of commercials every ten minutes, and cut them down to about one to one and a half minutes, I wouldn't bother skipping.
Also, bring back commercials that are NOT an insult to my intelligence and I might watch them too.
It's NOT rocket science here folks.
I would skip it like I've been doing for the last 28 years. Even back in the mid 80's when there were less commercials per hour I still skipped over them. |
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said by Chubbysumo:definitely not as much as the current gravy train brings in. Between payments from ads, and payments from retrans and other stuff, im betting that they make tons.
Provide some numbers. I'm also wondering if prime time programming is so profitable, why do we see so many programs being canceled each season. |
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JRW2R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, Max and Zen.Premium
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La La Land
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| There are too many reasons to fully explain that..
The lead reasons are:
They weren't a SMASH hit, episode #1.
They were HORRIBLE and should NEVER have been put on the air to begin with.
The station has moved the shows time slot so many times, the fans can't find it..
They are controlled by morons who wouldn't know a hit show if it bit them on their a......
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