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Mike
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Re: [WWDC] OFFICIAL Thread Time!

Don't forget your MagSafe 1 to MagSafe 2 adapter!


BellBoy
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reply to BellBoy
Keynote is up!



bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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San Jose, CA

The page implies it was a live stream! Did anyone watch it?



bobrk
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Re: [WWDC] Thread Time!

said by bobrk:

Can't wait.

New iPhone
New MacBook Pros
New Mac Pros

I'll probably get two of the three...

Damn, close.


Jackarino
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reply to BellBoy

Re: [WWDC] OFFICIAL Thread Time!

Actual video isn't up yet


Jackarino
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reply to BellBoy
Now it works



Brendan
Warr Guitar is here

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reply to bobrk

Re: [WWDC] Thread Time!

Well... I wouldn't exactly call the Mac Pros new... They should just discontinue it. Really.


smunro622
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reply to BellBoy

Re: [WWDC] OFFICIAL Thread Time!

All i can say is i am excited about the next generation MBP, there are few of at work waiting as we where going to be forced to windows as we need 16 gigs of memory to run so virtual machines. with this now we can say and get a speed demon. 768 gigs of SSB on a ivy bridge with 1600 mhz memory this is a top of the line machine.


Count Zero
Obama-Biden 2012
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reply to Jackarino

Re: [WWDC] Thread Time!

Maybe 3GS will just run iOS 6 in a neutered fashion like the iPhone 3G ran iOS 4...


Count Zero
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reply to Brendan
They clearly would if there was no market for them, they nixed the 17" MBP today... Not sure why they didn't go to a solution that would allow for Thunderbolt, it's the only Mac without them now.



HiVolt
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Ok, is it just me, or is the Mac Pro "upgrade" a joke?

• No Thunderbolt
• No USB 3.0
• No SATA 3 (6gbps) hard drives
• 2 year old Video Cards
• No Hardware RAID option
• No Sandy Bridge-E (Xeons are LGA1366 not LGA2011)

To me this is just a modest spec bump in terms of base clock speeds and memory.

Absolute freakin joke, Apple, to demand this sort of money for 2+ year old technology. Even if it is in a purdy aluminum case...
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Jackarino
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Apple should just drop it



Thinkdiff
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reply to HiVolt
Very puzzling upgrade. Either they are really going to cut it loose after this iteration or they're planning a major redesign and it just wasn't ready yet. There's no way they've spent over a year doing nothing.
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Count Zero
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Agreed Td. Feels like something "just wasn't ready" that's why they didn't even mention it in the Keynote. This feels very "stop gap-ish" to me. I'm guessing the next Mac Pro will be smaller and is requiring a very significant redesign of the internals that is giving them some difficulty for one reason or another. Quite likely designing the new MBP-retina occupied a lot of their engineering staff and they weren't able to dedicate enough people to make it happen today so they went with a solution that could be "dropped" into the existing design. Who knows if the rumored AppleTV is further slowing things down.
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HiVolt
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said by Thinkdiff:

Very puzzling upgrade. Either they are really going to cut it loose after this iteration or they're planning a major redesign and it just wasn't ready yet. There's no way they've spent over a year doing nothing.

To me they should reduce the price by at least $500 if that's the case.

Just comparing the base processor configurations, check out how old these processsors are...

Xeon W3565 (8M Cache, 3.20 GHz, 4 core) - Q4 2009
Xeon E5645 (12M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 6 core) - Q1 2010

Come on Apple, you could at least give your customers a price break. You've long recouped the R&D costs, the factories haven't had to "retool" for this upgrade at all, you still use the same logic board, same EVERYTHING...
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Brendan
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reply to Count Zero

said by Count Zero:

Quite likely designing the new MBP-retina occupied a lot of their engineering staff and they weren't able to dedicate enough people to make it happen today so they went with a solution that could be "dropped" into the existing design.

Couldn't dedicate enough engineers? A company with a $534B market cap should be able to cough up the bucks for a few engineers. Nay, I think the pro market and Apple are no longer bedfellows. In fact, I think they should drop pretenses and dedicate all engineers to the consumer electronics they now profit from.
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HiVolt
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reply to Count Zero
I don't think they can wait another year for WWDC. Mac Pro is practically obsolete now in terms of specs and current technology.

If they can squeeze it out within 3-4 months, that could be worth the wait if the end result is something that will truly be spectacular, for example

• Convertible Tower & Rackmount chassis
• Dual GPU support
• Sandy Bridge-E
• USB 3.0 (even if not native, so what)
• 4 Thunderbolt ports (3 back, 1 front)
• Harware RAID built in (no $800 insult for a 4 port card)
• Redundant power supply option for the Server version.

At my work we need to run OS X as a server for some applications we have... Right now the Mac Pro has no power or disk redundancy. Disk Utility software raid is retarded and there isn't a way to set up a notification of disk failure or predicted failure. No RAID 5/6 option either.

Unfortunately we never bought an XServe when they were still around. And we dont want to buy a used one with no warranty or support.

Apple is really pissing me off with this.
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bobrk
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Let's just flip it around, though. Of all the other Macs offered are there any that are faster than this new upgraded Mac Pro?

I do agree with the rack mount thing though. Not having a rack mount is keeping them out of lots of data centers, ours at least.



HiVolt
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From MacRumors

quote:
Update: A MacRumors reader writes in to share an email he received from Apple CEO Tim Cook after he asked about the future of the Mac Pro:

Our pro customers are really important to us...don't worry as we're working on something really great for later next year.
Later next year? Yikes...
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Count Zero
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reply to Brendan
Part of apple's success is they have always depended in small highly skilled teams to accomplish tasks rather than giant bloated departments.

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