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Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

[HN9000] Specific Websites and TurboPage

Hey, remember that one thread we had about websites that didn't work with TurboPage Function enabled? Well, I couldn't find it, so here we are!

GarrysMod.org - Disable TurboPage for full functionality.
I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but it seems to be similar to that problem we were having with Wikipedia and Wikia years ago where they would log us out almost immediately after logging in. Basically, when you log in through Steam (there is no other option), it pops you over to an HTTPS server at SteamCommunity.com. Once you log in, you're brought back to GarrysMod.org and it gives you a generic "Logging in..." screen with a "Click here if you won't want to wait" link. The page never automatically redirects you, so you have to click the link, which puts you back on the Garry's Mod front page. However, it fails to log you in and gives no error message.

Disabling the TurboPage Function before clicking through the SteamCommunity.com link seems to solve this and enabling the TurboPage Function again doesn't appear to log you out. Very odd.
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chances14

join:2010-03-03
Michigan

here's that thread you speak of

»Browsing issues with specific websites



grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

reply to Doc Lithius
The answer is actually in your question; HTTPS. Only HTTP packets are routed to/through the accelerators. The HPEP accelerator handles the actual HTTP, the Turbopage server handles static content on HTTP pages (small files that seldom changes from day to day). All other protocols are routed around the accelerators.

//greg//



Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

1 edit

reply to Doc Lithius
Bumping this because I found another problem which arose right after last night's hour-long maintenance (2 AM to 3 AM EDT).

LiveJournal.com - Disable TurboPage for full functionality.
The same exact problem as GarrysMod.org, actually; trying to log in with TurboPage enabled makes you log out as soon as you navigate somewhere, but trying to log in with TurboPage disabled keeps you logged in, even if you re-enable it right after. Edit: No it doesn't. Turning TurboPage back on will eventually log you right back out. Way to go, Hughes.
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

reply to Doc Lithius
I'm a bit confused as to why this is Hughes fault?

//greg//



Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

It could be a coincidence, sure. But like I said, after the other night's maintenance, LiveJournal has been unable to keep me logged in. Unless I disabled TurboPage Function.



grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

But if it was actually Hughes fault, it stands to reason that this issue would affect all HTTPS activity. What is your HTTPS experience on OTHER than these few sites?

//greg//



Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

That's not necessarily true, greg. As stated in the opening post, years back, Wikipedia and Wikia would log Hughesnet users out if they tried to browse to another page with TurboPage Function enabled. But I'll humor you.

- FurAffinity.net (HTTPS version) - Works perfectly with TurboPage enabled or disabled.
- Wikipedia (HTTPS site) - Works perfectly with TurboPage enabled or disabled.
- GarrysMod.org (HTTPS login) - ... suddenly works perfectly with TurboPage enabled or disabled.
- SteamCommunity.com (HTTPS login) - Works perfectly with TurboPage enabled or disabled.
- deviantART.com (HTTPS login) - Works perfectly with TurboPage enabled or disabled.
- LiveJournal.com (HTTPS login or HTTPS site) - Logs users out if browsing anywhere but the post-login or "Home" page with TurboPage enabled.

Unfortunately, that's about the extent of my HTTPS browsing. It's notable that the Garry's Mod website now works with TurboPage enabled, but LiveJournal not working with TurboPage enabled is annoying. And it's the only website that does it, of the ones I browse. (As you can see from my table there.) I've tried using the "reset" function as well, but to no avail.
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

said by Doc Lithius:

Unfortunately, that's about the extent of my HTTPS browsing.

Well, since 5 out of 6 are working, what does that tell you ? But either you've never purchased anything online, or you don't realise those SSL transactions are performed using HTTPS as well.

I can't help but think your issues are with a few problematic websites, or maybe even browser settings. But that's speculation. I really can't see how this can be laid at Hughes doorstep. And no, I'm afraid my memories do not contain any past Wiki issues.

//greg//
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Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

I say it can be laid on Hughes' doorstep because I've tried logging into LiveJournal using four different web browsers -- one of which keeps absolutely no data or cookies after the browser is closed -- and got the same exact result on all four of them. If it would appease you, I could also try and log in using a different computer with a different OS, or even one of my handheld devices, but I'm pretty sure the result will be the same.
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

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I'm not the one who needs appeasing Doc. What I see are a few websites that could use some HTTPS tweaking to be more universally compatible. Look at the numbers. In your most recent summary, the provider gets an 83% success rate. Five sites get a 100% rating, one gets a 0%. Yet you're blaming the provider?

It's my guess that the sites that give you problems have some HTTPS design feature or factor in place that is less than compatible with all providers. To me it would make more sense to approach the individual website(s) with your issues, rather than just assuming it's a provider problem.

By the way, what is your success rate with online banking and/or purchases with credit cards or PayPal? All those transactions use HTTPS as well.

//greg//
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Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

I know what you're getting at here, greg. Yes, all the "important things" work. Banking, PayPal, Steam purchases, and all that rot. Everything works just fine except LiveJournal. Fine. Dandy.

And you know what else? The only thing that the LiveJournal think really affects is the ability to poke around your personal Friends page or reply to other peoples' entries. Even with TurboPage on, you can still post entries, both through the web service and through third-party clients. So, fine. Whatever. I don't care anymore. I was just trying to report a website which isn't working properly. I'm sorry if it's of absolutely no consequence to you or anyone else here.
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Doc Lithius

join:2009-08-19
Rock, MI

reply to Doc Lithius
Sorry to double-post, but despite my better judgment, I'm going to add another website to the list. And this one is one I actually use on a daily basis.

Tumblr - Disable TurboPage for full functionality.
I can't even begin to make a guess as to why, but now Tumblr isn't working quite right with TurboPage enabled! Checking your followed blogs on the Dashboard works just fine, as does everything else that I can try. However, if you try an "Ask" link on any blog, it automatically logs you out on that page and returns "Ask anonymously or login" under the ask box instead of the usual "Ask as/log out" options. Clicking "login" actually logs you out of Tumblr rather than logging you back in, as you're not actually logged out of Tumblr as a whole. You're just unable to stay logged in on Ask pages.

And before I get another lecture about how "are other sites working correctly?" focusing solely on pay-sites, I have to be honest. I care as much about pay-sites as you care about all these random other websites I keep bringing up.

And yes, I've tried resetting TurboPage, clearing my cache, and the whole nine yards. It's as simple (and stupidly complex) as TurboPage on, I can't ask questions while logged in. TurboPage off, nothing breaks.
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY

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I think I asked this before. What results to you get when bypassing your router? If that helps, you should consider changing the router DNS settings. Mine is set to automatically accept the DNS server assignment provided by the ISP.

//greg//


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