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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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[STB] channels in 1000's cause box reboot

We just got our first set of channels in the 1000 range this past week, we never had above 999 before...

something bad happend though, on any of the RNG or Sci Atl / Cisco boxes in our house when you go to the guide, and select one of them, the box crashes and goes right back to AppDn (on the Cisco boxes that still have the LED screens you can see that) try again, same result

doing this on 3 boxes, but our tivo doesn't have this problem... guide bug?... if so wouldn't they of caught that a while ago before going to 1000's in Sci Atl areas?


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:2

Didn't have that problem here with our newer Cisco RNG boxes when they introduced 4-digit channel numbers with our World-of-More HD upgrade last November.

Haven't heard if anyone with older SA boxes had an issue here, though.

Could it have something to do with the channel guide version in your area? We had version S25 when the 4-digit channels were first added, and then later received the S25 patch.


osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

reply to neufuse
When I put in your zip code (15701), I get 3 systems (Blairsville, Elderton, Starford). Which system are you on, and what systems are getting these channels? Are all of them?

And why does a fairly small area have 3 headends? Did Comcast have a legacy territory and then never really combine the Adelphia headend? I know Indiana was formerly Adelphia, as was all the areas of Cambria County next door.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:2

reply to telcodad
These 4-digit channel numbers apparently follow a standardized "Master Channel Lineup" (MCLU) that Comcast has developed. Many of the new HD channels that were additions with the "World of More" upgrades have channel numbers in the 1000's.

This has also been discussed in some previous threads:
»Standardized cable lineups coming soon
»Master Channel Line Up
»[HD] Channels in the 200 Range

I don't know how close Comcast is in rolling this out nationally, but here is what was said in a response on Feb. 14, 2011 to a question in the Comcast Voices blog entry on the new channel guide (»blog.comcast.com/2010/01/new-gui···r.html):

Comcast is in the process of creating one Master Channel Lineup for all Comcast markets. This means that most networks will have the same channel number, regardless of what part of the country the Comcast subscriber lives in. This project is rolling out market by market in a phased approach.

Phase one of that project is that we are moving new and existing HD channels into the 1000's channel range and introducing 4 digit channel numbers.

Phase two will see the channels being re-aligned into genre-based locations.

Comcast continues to add new and exciting programming content to our digital video channel lineup, including HD channels made available through the "World of More" program.

To ensure customers get the full value of all programming content, Comcast is realigning channels into logical, genre based locations. This channel realignment will help customers find the content they want easier.


I don't know if anyone has this Master Channel Lineup yet (like in Philadelphia? It was also said that few systems in Indiana would be testing it back in June 2010), but here is a list of some non-premium, HD channels with 4-digit numbers that I have compiled from my own system and other's posts so far:

1216 Bloomberg
1217 C-SPAN
1218 News12
1225 BBC America
1231 Crime & Investigation
1232 ID
1262 Nat Geo Wild
1265 Smithsonian Channel
1271 H2
1281 Cooking Channel
1291 DIY
1307 Hallmark
1315 Jewelry TV
1316 TV Guide Entertainment
1318 EWTN
1325 Game Show Network (GSN)
1334 Oxygen
1345 Ovation
1368 Galavision
1407 CMT
1505 Sprout
1511 The Hub
1512 Fox Soccer
1513 GOL TV
1556 EWTN
1621 MavTV
1630 Outdoor Channel
1631 Sportsman Channel
1632 World Fishing Network
1712 NBA TV
1717 GOL Soccer
1862 IndiePlex


Marcus Carr

join:2009-04-08
Baltimore, MD

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reply to neufuse
Got two whole HD channels in Baltimore last year and lost remaining analogs. Nothing so far this year. No four-digit channel numbers.

The message about needing digital equipment was finally removed from limited basic channel numbers this week. Cable went out for several hours early Thursday morning because of "technical issues related to a piece of equipment," whatever that means.


osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

reply to telcodad
telcodad, if you want to see the 1000 numbering, look at most of the lineups round Indianapolis, the lineups in Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi, and Connecticut. There are a few variations in the numbers.

The announced numbers for EWTN HD, Fox Soccer HD and GolTV HD in Williamsport, PA are all different than the ones used on the Philadelphia system.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:2

said by osravens:

There are a few variations in the numbers.

The announced numbers for EWTN HD, Fox Soccer HD and GolTV HD in Williamsport, PA are all different than the ones used on the Philadelphia system.

OK, so the 4-digit channel numbers in this list may not be from the Master Channel Lineup then.

neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
Reviews:
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reply to osravens
you only get three? I get more then that when I enter 15701....

Comcast Blairsville CableCard
Comcast Blairsville Digital
Comcast Blairsville Rebuild Area
Comcast Blairsville Rebuild Digital
Comcast Blairsville Standard

Comcast Rural Valley CableCard
Comcast Rural Valley Digital
Comcast Rural Valley Standard

Comcast Punxsutawney CableCard
Comcast Punxsutawney Digital
Comcast Punxsutawney Standard

Comcast Starford Digital

Comcast Elderton Digital

I'm pretty sure they shut the old adelphia equipment down when comcast did the system rebuild (blairsville digital rebuild area) when they did that we went 100% digital


osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

I was using Zap2It. I find different results from some others. XfinityTV site has just Blairsville and Rural Valley.

To me, looking at them, it doesn't seem to make much sense to have Elderton and Starford separate, just combine them all into the Blairsville system, which is the one I assume you're on.



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

reply to neufuse
did anyone update your lineup yet? I don't see any channels listed in the 1000s anywhere yet.



utsports

join:2009-07-13
Knoxville

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reply to telcodad

said by telcodad:

I don't know if anyone has this Master Channel Lineup yet (like in Philadelphia?

I have it in Knoxville, TN here is my lineup:

1002 PBS HD
1003 ION HD
1006 ABC HD
1007 CW HD
1008 CBS HD
1009 MYNETWORKTV HD
1010 NBC HD
1011 FOX HD
1105 FOX NEWS CHANNEL HD
1106 CNN HD
1107 HLN HD
1108 MSNBC HD
1111 WEATHER CHANNEL HD
1115 CNBC HD
1117 FOX BUSINESS HD
1205 USA HD
1206 TNT HD
1207 FX HD
1208 SYFY HD
1209 SPIKE TV HD
1216 WGN AMERICA HD
1220 TBS HD
1221 COMEDY CENTRAL HD
1222 G4 HD
1232 INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY HD
1240 UNIVERSAL HD
1242 VELOCITY
1250 DISCOVERY HD
1251 SCIENCE HD
1260 ANIMAL PLANET HD
1261 NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD
1262 NAT GEO WILD HD
1270 HISTORY HD
1271 H2 HD
1280 FOOD NETWORK HD
1285 TRAVEL CHANNEL HD
1290 HGTV HD
1291 DIY NETWORK HD
1292 DESTINATION AMERICA HD
1305 LIFETIME HD
1307 HALLMARK CHANNEL HD
1308 WE TV HD
1311 QVC HD
1312 HSN HD
1325 GSN HD
1330 A&E HD
1331 BIOGRAPHY CHANNEL HD
1332 BRAVO HD
1340 E! HD
1341 STYLE HD
1350 TLC HD
1351 TRUTV HD
1360 TV ONE HD
1361 BET HD
1405 MTV HD
1406 VH1 HD
1407 CMT HD
1420 FUSE HD
1421 PALLADIA HD
1435 GMC HD
1511 HUB HD
1515 DISNEY CHANNEL HD
1516 DISNEY XD HD
1521 NICKELODEON HD
1525 CARTOON NETWORK HD
1530 ABC FAMILY HD
1603 ESPN 3D
1605 ESPN HD
1606 ESPN2 HD
1607 NBC SPORTS NETWORK HD
1608 ESPNEWS HD
1611 THE GOLF CHANNEL HD
1612 TENNIS HD
1620 SPEED HD
1630 OUTDOOR CHANNEL HD
1650 CSS HD (PART-TIME)
1675 FOX SPORTS SOUTH HD
1676 SPORTSOUTH HD
1703 XFINITY 3D
1705 NFL NETWORK HD
1706 NFL REDZONE HD
1711 NHL NETWORK HD
1712 NBA TV HD
1714 MLB NETWORK HD
1720 ESPNU HD
1721 CBS SPORTS NETWORK HD
1730 BTN HD
1806 AMC HD
1815 TCM HD
1820 LMN HD
1821 HALLMARK MOVIE CHANNEL HD
1830 ENCORE HD
1846 MGM HD
1860 IFC HD
1910 HBO HD
1912 HBO2 HD
1922 HBO ZONE HD
1925 HBO LATINO HD
1930 CINEMAX HD
1950 SHOWTIME HD
1952 SHO 2 HD
1970 THE MOVIE CHANNEL HD
1980 STARZ HD
1982 STARZ EDGE HD
1986 STARZ KIDS & FAMILY HD
1991 STARZ COMEDY HD


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:2

OK, thanks.

Up to 1099, the HD channels will vary by the local market, and the rest that you listed do seem to follow the genre groupings that were supplied by "Ken H" in the AVSForum (»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···18576965 ):

All channels will be grouped by genre.

- 99 and Below: Will remain the same with channel numbers decided by the local market. All channels in this range will be replicated in higher channel numbers.

- 100's: News, Local, and Public Service, Educational, Government.

- 200's: General Entertainment and Lifestyle cable channels (FX, TNT, Discovery, etc)

- 300's: General Entertainment and Lifestyle cable channels (Lifetime, A&E, TLC, shopping channels etc)

- 400's: Music Channels

- 500's: Kids and Religious channels

- 600's and 700's: Sports

- 800's: Movies and PPV

- 900's: Premium channels

- HD channels will move to the 1000's with the same channel number as the SD version + 1000.

- International Channels will be in the 2000's.



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

by mid 2013 all hd in western pa will be moved to the 1000s according to an article in the pittsburgh newspaper.


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