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Re: [DIRECTV] WEb site says 89.99 but is much more OK just as a gauge want to say what your weekly view is like?
Are there things you want to see but you don't because can't be there or somewhere? (Again an issue with DVR)
Also do you ever just watch something because its (only thing there is.... whatever) and then even try surfing???
Again I nearly never even really even temptation to.
You really watch that little OK... but again is that for lack of choice or don't mind always having to be somewhere, there for some things.
Well hey..... to each thier own.
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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Hayward:OK just as a gage want to say what you weekly view is like?
Are there things you want to see but you don't because can't bbe there or somewhere?
Well hey..... to each thier own.
Ok for example one show I have started watching lately is Game of Thrones. I can watch it on HBOGo anytime I want. No need to DVR it. Other shows are on my cable providers OnDemand service. |
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1 edit | OK then if you are happy with one ch you are paying for... or the right other maybe dozen or so.
Though I have seen the Broadcast NETs, are making moves towards streaming pretty fast.
UNFORTUNATELY has to mean more commercial, so while we have enjoyed the 60 sec breaks or less where there are, sometime none... that will soon be no more as it will be considered just extension of the network signal.... may escape the local spots  ...more likely filled with network promos... been in that biz.
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Hayward:OK then if you are happy with one ch you are paying for... or the right other maybe dozen or so. Actually HBO is free for me right now. As soon as they want $20 for it, it's being cancelled. So if HBO is smart they will sell HBOGo as a stand alone service.
Though I have seen the Broadcast NETs, are making moves towards streaming pretty fast.
UNFORTUNATELY has to mean more commercial, so while we have enjoyed the 60 sec breaks or less where there are, sometime none... that will soon be no more as it will be considered just extension of the network signal.... may escape the local spots ...more likely filled with network promos... been in that biz. |
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join:2005-07-16 | What would the pont of selling it standalone be? I'm sure they’d charge the same $15 bucks or so as the cable and satellite companies charge for the HBO package. Amazon and iTunes are a complete joke and a rip off, at what is it now $3 or $4 per episode of a TV show. I have the highest cable and satellite bills around and if I bought my TV shows a la carte I’d easily double what I pay for TV. Plus the quality probably isn’t as good. Do these lame download services even offer programming in Dolby 5.1?
At three dollars per episode, if you buy every episode of a season of Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and True Blood, you’re already at half of what a full year of a real subscription to HBO would cost and you’re only getting about 1% of the content HBO has to offer. Sounds like a complete and utter rip off to me.
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said by BF69:Amazon and ITunes sell episodes of many current season shows. All commercial free and all viewable anytime I want.
Key words there is SELL not free... I am talking of the broadcast networks and some cable have already or are moving into streaming content.
Right now it is pretty much of very limited commercial content.
CBS.com for instance offers many of their popular shows with only a 15-60 sec break... some breaks none.
As many take that as an alternate to cable or sat... me just gives me the chance to watch show out somewhere... low commercial content a bonus.
But that will be shortly ending as more and more also do...especially with the spread of high quality video tablets and broadband WiFi hotspots it will basically just be an extension of their programming with the same full hour commercial content it would on air.
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to Steve Mehs
said by Steve Mehs:What would the pont of selling it standalone be? I'm sure they’d charge the same $15 bucks or so as the cable and satellite companies charge for the HBO package. Actually my cable company charges $20 a month because they think they include Skinamax that is some sort of deal. The point is if I cancel cable I can't use HBOGo since it requires a subscription. Thus selling it as a stand alone offerring would allow me to continue to use it and they make money. win-win.
Amazon and iTunes are a complete joke and a rip off, at what is it now $3 or $4 per episode of a TV show. I have the highest cable and satellite bills around and if I bought my TV shows a la carte I’d easily double what I pay for TV. Plus the quality probably isn’t as good. Do these lame download services even offer programming in Dolby 5.1?
At three dollars per episode, if you buy every episode of a season of Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and True Blood, you’re already at half of what a full year of a real subscription to HBO would cost and you’re only getting about 1% of the content HBO has to offer. Sounds like a complete and utter rip off to me.
The main downside is that HBO doesn't offer CURRENT season shows for sale. And then they wonder why Game Of Thrones is the most pirated show. I'm against piracy but if HBO is going to be assholes and make it hard for us to get their content which we are willing to actually pay for then fuck 'em. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to Hayward
said by Hayward:said by BF69:Amazon and ITunes sell episodes of many current season shows. All commercial free and all viewable anytime I want.
Key words there is SELL not free... So? Do you work for free? I'm 100% sure the company you work for SELLS something to someone. |
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Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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kudos:1 | said by BF69:said by Hayward:said by BF69:Amazon and ITunes sell episodes of many current season shows. All commercial free and all viewable anytime I want.
Key words there is SELL not free... So? Do you work for free? I'm 100% sure the company you work for SELLS something to someone. Yes but buying all your TV a la carte would cost you infinitely more than any sat or cable service... unless the rare person that only watches a couple of things a week.
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BF69Premium
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1 edit | said by Hayward:Yes but buying all your TV a la carte would cost you infinitely more than any sat or cable service... unless the rare person that only watches a couple of things a week.
That would be me. And that's not the point. The point was made about commercials and crap and I stated that there are commercial-free options. The fact they cost a lot more oh well. You either pay by putting up with ads or paying a higher price for content. People don't seem to want to make either choice and that's not things work in grown up world. |
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1 edit | said by BF69:That would be me. And that's not the point. The point was made about commercials and crap and I stated that there are commercial-free options. The fact they cost a lot more oh well.
So I get it you would rather pay through the nose for what a DVR would as easily allow to for MUCH LESS cable or sat, can skip the ads too.
Most are interested in least cost NOT MOST POSSIBLE cost you seem happy with UNLESS YOU ARE EXTREMELY SELECTIVE NOT EVERY EPISODE OF YOUR FAVORITE CURRENT SERIES on multiple netrworks.
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Camden, TN | said by Hayward:said by BF69:That would be me. And that's not the point. The point was made about commercials and crap and I stated that there are commercial-free options. The fact they cost a lot more oh well.
So I get it you would rather pay through the nose for what a DVR would as easily allow to for MUCH LESS cable or sat, can skip the ads too. Most are interested in least cost NOT MOST POSSIBLE cost you seem happy with UNLESS YOU ARE EXTREMELY SELECTIVE NOT EVERY EPISODE OF YOUR FAVORITE CURRENT SERIES on multiple netrworks. Most want everything for free like welfare and bitch when it's not. That's the issue. And I personally wouldn't be paying up the nose since I watch maybe 3 shows on a regular basis. I can tell you buying them form Amazon or Itunes would NOT cost $1200 a year. |
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2 edits | said by BF69:Most want everything for free like welfare and bitch when it's not. That's the issue. And I personally wouldn't be paying up the nose since I watch maybe 3 shows on a regular basis. I can tell you buying them form Amazon or Itunes would NOT cost $1200 a year.
Well again if that is true you do you realize how unusual that makes you? and yes might be cost effective FOR YOU.
Now where you are getting $1200/year BS from? Sounds like the opposite you subscribe to everything possible.
Ever notice there are grey middle areas in reality?
Where as I might watch three things a day (low for many)... a la carte that would be more expensive than what I pay for mid service... and could watch more when needed....
Your way I'd be paying $2000+/yr for much more I get for much less. If it were even available... esoteric things generally aren't on demand.
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Hayward:said by BF69:Most want everything for free like welfare and bitch when it's not. That's the issue. And I personally wouldn't be paying up the nose since I watch maybe 3 shows on a regular basis. I can tell you buying them form Amazon or Itunes would NOT cost $1200 a year.
Well again if that is true you do you realize how unusual that makes you? and yes might be cost effective FOR YOU. And I've stated such. YOU are the one arguing. I'm just stating that people need to realize people who make shows are doing it to make money and that's where commercials come in OR you can pay a premium for non-commercial version. Those out there that think these companies should just make cost free and commercial free entertainment for the masses just to be nice are living in lala land. I live in grown-up land. It has another name called REALITY.
Now where you are getting $1200/year BS from? Sounds like the opposite you subscribe to everything possible.
Digital Home Package( required to get in any HD besides local and also required for HBO and is the most basic digital package) $64 a month. Digital View is $5 more and Digital View Plus is $10 more.
1 HD Box $5 a month if I had a DVR instead as YOU suggest( instead of buying episodes ) that's $15 a month instead.
HBO $20 a month
taxes, fees etc $10 a month
Total = $109 per month = $1308 a year.
And no that's FAR from ordering everything. And that's ONE HD box by the way.
Ever notice there are grey middle areas in reality?
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to Hayward
said by Hayward:Your way I'd be paying $2000+/yr for much more I get for much less. If it were even available... esoteric things generally aren't on demand. A) I never suggested you buy ANYTHING on demand let alone everything. What I suggested you realize commercials are there to provide revenue so you can enjoy your shows. People who gripe about not being able to skip commercials are taking away money form the people providing them with FREE entertainment.
B) No need to buy network shows since most people can get them in via a thing called an antenna. And that's free outside the cost of the antenna. Notice I said MOST not ALL so don't go all anal on me. |
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Who the hell wants aANYTHING tto do with HBO???
I even get board with the occasional weekend previves 80% per cent of it is crap I saw 10 years ago. About 5% new maybe a show or two.
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said by BF69:said by Hayward:Your way I'd be paying $2000+/yr for much more I get for much less. If it were even available... esoteric things generally aren't on demand. A) I never suggested you buy ANYTHING on demand let alone everything. But if you aren't subscribing that is exactly what you are doing to see the little (unusual) you are.
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said by BF69 
B) No need to buy network shows since most people can get them in via a thing called an antenna. And that's free outside the cost of the antenna. Notice I said MOST not ALL so don't go all anal on me.
And don't make assumptions the same is true of much west of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies where a few miles from an interstate not even cell service.
YOU are not everywhere.
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said by BF69:A) I never suggested you buy ANYTHING on demand let alone everything. What I suggested you realize commercials are there to provide revenue so you can enjoy your shows. People who gripe about not being able to skip commercials are taking away money form the people providing them with FREE entertainment.
And I agree with that and what will in the end hurt local station and so far why so slow.... all the broadcaast networks are rapidly moving to streaming so far only 15 to 60 sec add per break if any... but very soon they will see it as an extension to their network feed local time filled with promos.
They are the ones that will be fighting... in the next 10 years there may no longer be such a thing as a local network affiliate but for local news that will just be a website not actual air that will all be cable, sat, or net... not air.
Retired from it for going on 20 years I knew the operational end of broadcast work was headed for the sewer and got out ACTUAL skill and training was no longer needed... would be just a glorified babysitter to a machine.
Today there basically is no one but maybe a baby sitter opperating a TV station...with a little luck better than a McDonald's drop out... no licensing... you essentially have a computer and huge hard drive... other than the VERY little live stuff done anymore in most places... other than that 1/2 hour of NEWS? maybe.
Believe me OTA just for economics will soon be gone though may exist purely CCTV distributed by cable/sat but no longer OTA, if again only economics pushing out Megawatts of RF is costly vs just CCTV feeding to cable or sat. (and many so long cable now sat don't even know an option anymore, so detrained)
Everything is and will change.
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