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aciddrink

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reply to WernerSchutz

Re: bull shit

said by WernerSchutz:

Is there anyone left in the US Gov't representing the people or is it now completely dominated by corporations for the benefit of corporations ?

but don't you know, "corporations are people" in the eyes of the US government.


BF69
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said by aciddrink:

said by WernerSchutz:

Is there anyone left in the US Gov't representing the people or is it now completely dominated by corporations for the benefit of corporations ?

but don't you know, "corporations are people" in the eyes of the US government.

Mitt Romney said so.

WernerSchutz

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reply to aciddrink
Yes, except schizophrenic "people" and obsessed w/ making a profit at any cost with no remorse and not being punishable for any crimes committed.

They are not "people" and, even if they were, would be people that should be locked up in an mental asylum or prison, not given free rein to "vote" with an endless supply of money as "free speech".

Hmmm. Ultra rich schizophrens with endless money and no repercussions for anything they do. Neat.


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reply to BF69

Hope and fail?

So it's Mitt or Hope and Change? ... If this is Hope and Change, maybe we should give Mitt a try.


dks7

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reply to aciddrink

Re: bull shit

Since the US government IS a corporation since the end of the civil war I would say you are spot on.


HaloFans

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Re: Hope and fail?

lol wut.

Mitt is an obvious corporate apologist as he is famously quoted, "Corporations are people my friend."

He would approve caps/overages or whatever "benefits" the corporations obtain so that they will "trickle down" to the consumers.

If anything, Karl and user Facetious are simply reminding everyone that our telecom industry needs more regulation, not deregulation.

Day by day, year by year, the USA continues to fall further behind in Internet speeds at affordable prices. Instead, money used to improve infrastructure is thrown at propaganda and lobbying to tell people that our Internet structure, even though it's the furthest away from the truth.

Money = free speech. A sad reality of the times.

LucasLee

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reply to WernerSchutz

Re: bull shit

said by WernerSchutz:

Hmmm. Ultra rich schizophrens with endless money and no repercussions for anything they do. Neat.

your comment brings to mind the extremely excellent documentary The Corporation (www.thecorporation.com) which psychoanalyzes the actions of corporations, and determines that if they indeed are people, then they are sociopaths, which, under normal circumstances would be prevented from making the destructive actions they regularly commit by society at large.

it's worth a watch for anyone interested in this topic.

MDBill
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And "The Corporation" is available for streaming on Netflix.


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Re: Hope and fail?

said by HaloFans:

lol wut.

Mitt is an obvious corporate apologist as he is famously quoted, "Corporations are people my friend."

He would approve caps/overages or whatever "benefits" the corporations obtain so that they will "trickle down" to the consumers.

If anything, Karl and user Facetious are simply reminding everyone that our telecom industry needs more regulation, not deregulation.

Day by day, year by year, the USA continues to fall further behind in Internet speeds at affordable prices. Instead, money used to improve infrastructure is thrown at propaganda and lobbying to tell people that our Internet structure, even though it's the furthest away from the truth.

Money = free speech. A sad reality of the times.

Hope and change has turned to despair and fail. The most open government ever is now the most closed. Gitmo isn't closed. The bi-partisan hope and change President is now the most partisan.

FCC members regularly run away to those they regulated (I think this happened recently with an Obama appointee).

Mitt can't run things worse than they are now.

As to regulation, no, what the industry needs is competition, a lot of it.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."


Jack_in_VA
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reply to BF69

Re: bull shit

said by BF69:

said by aciddrink:

said by WernerSchutz:

Is there anyone left in the US Gov't representing the people or is it now completely dominated by corporations for the benefit of corporations ?

but don't you know, "corporations are people" in the eyes of the US government.

Mitt Romney said so.

Messiah Obama is his boss. Not Romney. Study your government set up.


Jack_in_VA
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Re: Hope and fail?

said by HaloFans:

lol wut.

Mitt is an obvious corporate apologist as he is famously quoted, "Corporations are people my friend."

He would approve caps/overages or whatever "benefits" the corporations obtain so that they will "trickle down" to the consumers.

If anything, Karl and user Facetious are simply reminding everyone that our telecom industry needs more regulation, not deregulation.

Day by day, year by year, the USA continues to fall further behind in Internet speeds at affordable prices. Instead, money used to improve infrastructure is thrown at propaganda and lobbying to tell people that our Internet structure, even though it's the furthest away from the truth.

Money = free speech. A sad reality of the times.

Hey Obamabot Mitt has nothing to do with this issue or discussion. Direct your criticism at Obama


HaloFans

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reply to pandora
Since when did the Republicans care about people's rights?

It's so obvious they don't especially for the middle class and minorities.



HaloFans

join:2006-12-18

reply to Jack_in_VA
Yeah let's blame everything on our president when there's a 1/3 of the government called Congress that doesn't know how to work.

We all secretly want our democracy to be run like dictatorship.

Selective memory.

Did you people forget how many times Congress faced shutdown over the past four years?


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said by HaloFans:

Since when did the Republicans care about people's rights?

The Republican party was founded to free blacks from the slavery of Democrats. The first elected woman to Congress was a Republican who voted in the House before she could vote to put herself in, Republican states gave women the right to vote before the federal government did. So since the beginning Republicans have been concerned about people's rights.

Jim Crow, slavery, separate but equal, blacks only, and what not, all Democrats. A Democrat Governor (Wallace) tried to stop school integration, and was stopped by a Republican President (Eisenhower). You should learn a bit about history.
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kerya666

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reply to pandora

Re: Hope and fail?

What you pointed out is what republican were. There is almost no connection between them in this day and age. Both dems and reps now run a fusion policy where they will take up a stance if it benefits them and that is all. Basically they are both fakes and liars if it is needed to win some seats or election.

I absolutely cannot agree with any one party on majority of their "stances". I really wish there were more pro-people independent candidates. I rather vote for Mickey Mouse than any of the current clowns in the running.

Oh and to FCC boss: "Kill him with fireee!"

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said by kerya666:

What you pointed out is what republican were. There is almost no connection between them in this day and age. Both dems and reps now run a fusion policy where they will take up a stance if it benefits them and that is all. Basically they are both fakes and liars if it is needed to win some seats or election.

Some of what you say is true, some not. Both parties have problems with being purchased by constituencies. At the same time, Democrats still like racial discrimination, today it's called reverse discrimination. Republicans for the most part would prefer not to have racial preference. Personally, my preference would be to have those who have been disadvantaged culturally and economically get extra help.

Elizabeth Warren is an example of whats wrong, claiming to be an American Indian. Similarly Barry Obama may have claimed to be Kenyan, which could have opened the doors to Harvard Law School for him.

Elizabeth and Barry weren't exactly disadvantaged as a kid growing up in an inner city with great poverty at a failed public school. I'd prefer for kids who go through that to get help, regardless or race.

As to the FCC, I think candidate Obama promised an end to the revolving door, but it seems the door revolves faster now, at least at the FCC.

We can't let regulators know they will get cushy jobs with the regulated if they behave appropriately (for the regulated). Neither party has been particularly good at clearing this up, but it seems the current administration is very very bad at it.
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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use."

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