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Re: best way to distribute phone lines within a house? 
here's what mine looks like...
that panel distributes phone and gigabit Ethernet to 7 locations around my house. each wall plate in my house has 2 cat5e [1 for phone, 1 for data] and 2 rg6.
all from Leviton products...I have a cheat sheet / wiring diagram for that Leviton voice / data module that you see in the middle of my panel.
can you post a pic of how you wall mount patch panel looks like right now and ? |
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scross
join:2002-09-13
Cordova, TN | reply to alphapointe
said by alphapointe:~30Mbps (real-world) wireless vs. gig-e+ ? I'll run the cables. Wireless will NEVER replace wired for speed and reliability, no matter what the marketing nimrods say...
I went almost totally wireless years ago, and I don't miss the wires. (Beside, these days laptops, iPhones, and iPads demand it.) My rate is limited by my internet connection anyway (can't really go faster than that) and the speed between each device and the router; only every once in a blue moon do any of my devices saturate that. |
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| said by scross:said by alphapointe:~30Mbps (real-world) wireless vs. gig-e+ ? I'll run the cables. Wireless will NEVER replace wired for speed and reliability, no matter what the marketing nimrods say...
I went almost totally wireless years ago, and I don't miss the wires. (Beside, these days laptops, iPhones, and iPads demand it.) My rate is limited by my internet connection anyway (can't really go faster than that) and the speed between each device and the router; only every once in a blue moon do any of my devices saturate that. I disagree though....wireless will never REPLACE the hard wire 10/100/1000 connection...between device and router, speed-wise and reliability...
with streaming videos getting heavier, wireless connections will buffer while wired ones will always be able to play it granting you got at least 6Mbps and up....
even with in-network streaming, wired is the way to go... |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
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I've installed a few phone jacks  . Skip all the Leviton / Legrand cabinet and module BS. They are junk, and they are too small (my apologies to the folks who have them, it's my professional opinion after dealing with them for many years).
Get a split 50 66 block and go to town. No need to get fancy. No need to dick around with 110 stuff or re-invent the wheel for dialtone.
KISS - 66 Block and piece of wood.
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said by scross:I went almost totally wireless years ago, and I don't miss the wires. (Beside, these days laptops, iPhones, and iPads demand it.) My rate is limited by my internet connection anyway (can't really go faster than that) and the speed between each device and the router; only every once in a blue moon do any of my devices saturate that.
Agree  I have the same conditions as you. Most every installation now is wireless. No need for homeowners to go to that extreme since none have 60 GB feeding their home. All is needed is to be able to handle their source signal.
I can stream Directv from my Sprint 3G wireless internet connection using a Directv wireless setup. Less than 3MB connection. |
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| said by Jack_in_VA:Most every installation now is wireless. No need for homeowners to go to that extreme since none have 60 GB feeding their home.
that's in contrast to what I've seen homebuilders are doing though...incorporating structured wiring panels in new homes for easier phone, data, tv distribution...
that's exactly the same reason, why these new structured wiring companies have popped up from companies who have guys doing low voltage stuff...
said by Jack_in_VA:I can stream Directv from my Sprint 3G wireless internet connection using a Directv wireless setup. Less than 3MB connection.
without buffering and eating up your data plan? |
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| said by medbuyer:said by Jack_in_VA:I can stream Directv from my Sprint 3G wireless internet connection using a Directv wireless setup. Less than 3MB connection.
without buffering and eating up your data plan? In an apartment I had in 2007 I decided to not have fixed HSI, so all I had was my Sprint PCMCIA EVDO-A card, and I also bought a Linksys router that would accept the card and re-transmit as Wi-Fi.
My Roku box had no issues streaming to my standard def TV at the time--tho I was almost always watching a 1 or 2 dot quality picture instead of a 3 dot. The buffering was surprisingly minimal, maybe 10 seconds as opposed to the current 5 seconds I deal with for HD streams and my 25/25 FIOS connection.
I never went over 5GB in a month, tho I was on Sprint's actual unlimited plan at the time--the only reason to go with Sprint vs. Verizon in fact was that they offered true Unlimited. |
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said by nunya:Skip all the Leviton / Legrand cabinet and module BS.
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Get a split 50 66 block and go to town. No need to get fancy. No need to dick around with 110 stuff or re-invent the wheel for dialtone.
KISS - 66 Block and piece of wood.
That has been my basic opinion on the Leviton stuff after looking into it... overpriced for what you're getting. Though I think it certainly has a place if you're looking to have this type of stuff mounted in a finished space.
I am leaning toward the 66 block after looking over that homephonewiring site that aleph linked to. These cables are going to be just for voice, and once it's setup it should not change, I'm really just trying to avoid having a mass of scotch-locks hanging from a few cables, or wedging everything into a surface mount block to splice it all together. |
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scross
join:2002-09-13
Cordova, TN | reply to medbuyer
said by medbuyer:that's in contrast to what I've seen homebuilders are doing though...incorporating structured wiring panels in new homes for easier phone, data, tv distribution...
My MIL just bought a new(ish) house a few months ago which came with such a wiring system. The original owners were tech-savvy (partially wireless) and so barely used it. My MIL is also tech-savvy (mostly wireless) and so will use it even less. In fact, the only thing which really uses it right now is the alarm system, and this will probably be true for the foreseeable future. If I were building a new house right now, I might very well go ahead and include the basics (empty conduit, empty panel, etc.) while the walls were open, but I would probably never actually get around to using them. |
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Mathews, VA
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said by medbuyer:said by Jack_in_VA:Most every installation now is wireless. No need for homeowners to go to that extreme since none have 60 GB feeding their home.
that's in contrast to what I've seen homebuilders are doing though...incorporating structured wiring panels in new homes for easier phone, data, tv distribution... that's exactly the same reason, why these new structured wiring companies have popped up from companies who have guys doing low voltage stuff... said by Jack_in_VA:I can stream Directv from my Sprint 3G wireless internet connection using a Directv wireless setup. Less than 3MB connection.
without buffering and eating up your data plan? Buffering and eating up my data quota are two different things. Buffering not a problem. So far I've been able to manage my data usage. |
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Mathews, VA
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said by bemis:said by medbuyer:said by Jack_in_VA:I can stream Directv from my Sprint 3G wireless internet connection using a Directv wireless setup. Less than 3MB connection.
without buffering and eating up your data plan? In an apartment I had in 2007 I decided to not have fixed HSI, so all I had was my Sprint PCMCIA EVDO-A card, and I also bought a Linksys router that would accept the card and re-transmit as Wi-Fi. My Roku box had no issues streaming to my standard def TV at the time--tho I was almost always watching a 1 or 2 dot quality picture instead of a 3 dot. The buffering was surprisingly minimal, maybe 10 seconds as opposed to the current 5 seconds I deal with for HD streams and my 25/25 FIOS connection. I never went over 5GB in a month, tho I was on Sprint's actual unlimited plan at the time--the only reason to go with Sprint vs. Verizon in fact was that they offered true Unlimited. Close to my experience but I don't have any hi speed to compare with. You used a Roku box where I use a Directv supplied Cisco to talk to my wifi. |
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| We have a character down the street that modified his microwave to run with the door open with a tin foil reflector. If he aims it our way it raises hell with our wi-fi. As usual the FCC don't give a crap sooooo.. I'm on hard wire with this computer and the laptop is running at 5 GHz so it don't bother us too much anymore..
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| said by macsierra:We have a character down the street that modified his microwave to run with the door open with a tin foil reflector. What? Why? |
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said by macsierra:We have a character down the street that modified his microwave to run with the door open with a tin foil reflector.
Just why would someone do this? There has to be more to this story. |
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A microwave won't stop a wifi connection it will just slow it down by 20-40%. |
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+1 |
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Here I did all cat5e/6 throughout the house. RG6. All comes back to the basement to 2x 24port patch panels for cat6 and 1 24port coax Patch panel. All cat 5 is treated that way. Comes into the panel out to jacks.
On the back of one patch panel I took 6 ports and wired them together, using the non-cutting side of the punch blade. I use that as the phone patch.
So ports 1-6 are wired togther, Port 1 goes to ONT Phone port. carrying lines 1-4. Port 2 patches over to the other panel to head up to the kitchen phone for the wireless phone system. Port3 connects to printer for faxing. Port 4 goes to Office desk phone, hardwired for power outages and multiple line support.
Each room in the house basically gets 2 cat5/6 and 1 RG6. They can then be used for whatever is needed. |
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said by Jack_in_VA:Just why would someone do this? There has to be more to this story.
Just the typical argument that comes up when a rural airport wants to expand and some jackass thinks he can cause hate and discontent by fouling up RF communications. There are deformed people that have nothing better to do around here..
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said by bemis:I've looked at 66-blocks, and various videos, diagrams, etc... but it seems like those are more appropriate for situations where you have an individual line for each "station". Are they still the correct way to go when you have just 1-2 lines and multiple "stations"? Heres one way to wire multiple stations to a couple of incomimg lines.
»Re: How to correctly wire a 66 Block
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| Thanks Wayne! I found that one this morning through Google. I think I prefer it as it "make sense" to me. You are literally looping the same pairs to the the other spots on the block. Seems like it should be straight forward way to setup up to 4 incoming lines to up to 6 stations. |
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