 ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | More basement remodeling Ok, so I just closed on my house and now it is time to get to work in the basement.
Have read some of the recent basement remodel discussions and am trying to put some thoughts together for mine.
So a little about my basement.
I just recently had this put in:
»www.basementsystems.com/basement···ard.html
With this sump:
»www.basementsystems.com/sump-pum···ump.html
There is an older open grey water sump that empties to an underground gravel area. This sump has an exterior basement entry drain, interior basement drain, and the washer connected to it.
The septic system is located in the from of the house, as is the one bathroom upstairs.
The wife wants to finish the basement out and utilize it as a family room (has an area established with fireplace), additional bedroom (area already defined), office, laundry area, and additional bathroom.
I am looking at this for the exterior walls:
»www.insofast.com/index.html
Not sure about flooring yet, as I am still debating dricore, or some of the other options that have been presented in some of the other threads. Also not sure yet if we will try and go with carpet in the family room and bedroom for our daughter to have a "softer" floor to play on. All of the upstairs is hardwood.
My real issue is that with the septic being in the front of the house, of course the wife wants the bathroom in the basement at the rear of the house. Haven't had time to research around the house enough to make this decision. I was hoping to be able to get by easy enough by converting the original sump to a black water sump but not sure I want all the gray water going into the septic.
Any thoughts are welcomed. Diagrams and pictures will come later. |
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| when i was taking a building inspection course one of my classmates was a salesman for Basment Systems. being the cynic that i am i was expecting to get the usual song and dance when he presented his company products, but i was impressed. the sump systems that they install with 2 cast iron pumps in a sealed pit. they do this installed for less than the cost of materials for a sub par sump pump install you would do yourself with depot parts. the interior french drain products are great in areas like around my place with the iron ocre in the ground, you can easily flush the interior french drains.
I dont like recomending a supplier but basement systems uses in house products and have the reputation to stand behind them. |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | The setup in my basement impressed me. The previous owner used a french drain on the interior, right in front of the entry door. That way, if the exterior drain clogged and water ran under the door, it would not flood the basement. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to ropeguru
I wish basement systems had a vendor near here. |
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 Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to ropeguru
You might want to check out these folks. Been around a long time in Richmond and have a excellent reputation.
B-Dry Basement Waterproofing Systems |
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 SwedishRiderRider on the StormPremium
join:2006-01-11
Connecticut
kudos:1 | I have seen outfits like this in my area as well... and from my research they tended to be quite expensive... a good contractor with a solid plan *should* be able to do at least as good for much less overall (at least that's my experience).
But given my subgrade square footage/appraisal rule revelation... I would be hesitant to go too far off the deep end with cost either way given the rate of return on basement investment when selling the home. |
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SwedishRiderRider on the StormPremium
join:2006-01-11
Connecticut
kudos:1 | reply to ropeguru
You have probably already seen my thread on appraisals/square footage/finished basements. I certainly think a finished basement adds value to your home, and most importantly, utility value to you and your family.
Be aware however that there is a limit as to how much of your initial investment you can realistically expect to get back... and it should make you think about how much is an appropriate amount to spend on this project.
Check out the thread here:
»Appraisals and Finished Basements |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | Yep, saw that. We are doing it for the value but to have the necessary living space for us. The main upstairs is only 1240 sq. feet. This will double the living space for us that we really need. If it did not have the basement or the basement was not ready to finish out, I would not have bought.
Plan on being here quite a while. |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | reply to Jack_in_VA
Don't doubt that a bit. However the system I listed in my original post has already been put in by the previous owner. |
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garys_2kPremium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI Reviews:
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You don't want the gray water going to your septic system. If that system is performing alright now then I'd only plumb the new bathroom to it and keep the laundry water out of it.
The washing machine can dump a LOT of water, quickly, into your leach field. That's fine if it was designed for it but not so good if the septic tank and field weren't designed to take that much of a surge. |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | said by garys_2k:You don't want the gray water going to your septic system. If that system is performing alright now then I'd only plumb the new bathroom to it and keep the laundry water out of it.
The washing machine can dump a LOT of water, quickly, into your leach field. That's fine if it was designed for it but not so good if the septic tank and field weren't designed to take that much of a surge.
I was thinking last night that I may just use the current sump to pump to the current discharge area and include the shower and lavatory sink. Then purchase one of the macerating toilets and run its connection out the basement wall and directly to the septic.
I believe with the layout of the bathroom that I have come up with, this may be the best approach.
Thing is, I do not believe that the sink and shower will get used all that often. Most likely, the upstairs will get used most as the basement will just be a family room, office, and spare bedroom.
Thoughts? |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | reply to ropeguru
Well, the more I think about it, the more I realize I would like to keep the cost down, doesn't everyone, so I may go with the Owens Corning Foamular F-250 on the walls and then 1x3's horizontal and then vertical as seen in the fiollowing link.
»www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/video/0···,00.html
Question I have is if one were to do it this way and run electrical horizontal and vertical, what would be used to ensure the protection of the wire? I like the idea of using standard outlets and not having to run conduit down the walls but worry about puncturing the wire in the future. |
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You can also use the cord protector in place of conduit. It works fine in my home. |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | And you put that behind the sheet rock? Not heard of doing that before.
I am assuming you are talking about using something like this:
»www.cabletiesandmore.com/cordcovers.php |
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 alkizmo
join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1 | I think he meant this
»www.homedepot.ca/product/protect···5/910071
But those only protect from when drilling into a stud to hook something up to a wall. |
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ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | Got ya. Know about these but not sure they will protect what I need. Will have to think about it. |
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