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25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

YEP!

Another Google project they'll walk on. They thought they could do it better. Well Google, put your money where your mouth is and lets see. You thought you could do better in the cell phone industry to; you're attempts failed you on unlocked devices. Then the move to bid up spectrum to create an "open" network; failed. Seems that lately anything they touch fails because they're working on the cheap! Time for them to give up now.


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said by 25139889:

Another Google project they'll walk on. They thought they could do it better. Well Google, put your money where your mouth is and lets see. You thought you could do better in the cell phone industry to; you're attempts failed you on unlocked devices. Then the move to bid up spectrum to create an "open" network; failed. Seems that lately anything they touch fails because they're working on the cheap! Time for them to give up now.

They underestimated the power of the industry they are trying to compete in. That goes for the wireless industry, the communication industry, and even the software industry.
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yes sir,
die google!!


25139889

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reply to Rob
The industry isn't really the problem. It's GOOG trying to skimp on how they install. Putting line crews in dangerous areas to get away for paying on ROW - but refusing to pay for the required linemen? That's not the industry- that's Google being CHEAP!

And Google has the $$ they just fail to put it where they start talking when they claim they can show change. Their change often fails and they walk away like nothing happened and but got free advertising.



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reply to 25139889
I love this statement by Google:

quote:
it was blessing Kansas City with an ultra-fast Internet service and that it would deploy the hookups at “Google speed.”
And that they are. "Google Speed" is a rollout that could take years - just like most of their beta projects. And the support they offer will be "post in a forum and we will get back to you" oh sometime in the next month or so.


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reply to Rob

said by Rob:

They underestimated the power of the industry...

I think it less about competition, and more about understanding that there are no short cuts, no matter how deep your pockets/influance.
engineering, constructing, configuring a new network just takes time.
it is part of what they wanted/needed to learn from this experiment

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

and that is my point! Thank you!

They thought they could under cut in many ways and found out they could not in the end. I wouldn't doubt this project will be killed off before long. They'll have something to say along the lines of "we have experienced [insert new reason here] and we are unable to build out our FTTH network. Thus until further notice the project will not finish. We greatly apologize"


25139889

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Very true! and that is the reason they did NOT build a wireless network. They new it would cost $$$$ in support. They don't wanna support EUs they just wanna collect the $$$ anyway they can and be done with it.

As I see it though- the project is basically dead at this point with them. No launch time and this problem again; deff dead.


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$20 says they'll launch...eventually.

Remember, this isn't the first infrastructure project they've sunk funds into. They put a ton of money into Clearwire...unfortunately Clear's scattergun, slipshod approach to network-building means that a new network needs to be built in its place.



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Thus until further notice the project will not finish. We greatly apologize"

and everyone will just believe them on that because google can do no wrong. All the meantime they just rake in the cash reading your email and giving you ads, reading your documents and giving you ads, using their voicemail and giving you ads. scanning your search and giving you ads.

You have to admit for not dealing with the public, it sure does pay them well. Now all they would have to do is buy facebook and they have the ultimate ad to public revenue stream for the rest of their natural days,and still not really have to deal with the public but make money off them because they are the product being sold!

Just think, facebook able to be searched via google. Can you imagine the ad revenue?

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They will definately launch...eventually

Look at the history
febuary 2010 they announced it, and expected to be operational in 6 months.
then they extend the whole selection process/contest/circus and approval process dragged it out longer, once selected KC had their approvals process, part of which showed google their "just hang it anywhere" idea was unrealistic in the real world.

So an young engineer in Mt. View is learning some reality. (If you've ever spent time at google or any of the tech giants in silly valley you'd know that things get done around their towns at the snap of a finger (and a pile of money) that require a little more thought and compliance with existing regulations elsewhere.

The free thinking enviroment brings up a some real good ideas, and alot of bad ones (most of which never see daylight, thank god!) But does set up a dream sequence/disneyland/neverland/hollywood like reality that sometimes doesn't transfer well to the physical world.

Anybody that thought this would be less than a 2-5 year project just wasn't thinking.


Telco

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The billion dollar question is what where they thinking rolling it out there in the first place anyway. The Tech and IT sector in Middle-America is non-existent.



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not true, the KC area is a crossroads of fiber backbone and surrounding small cities like overland park etc. host many mid amerrica server farms and net startups
It really fits the profile google wanted to test, can bringing ubiquious ultra-high speed internet to an older otherwise un techie town magically transform it to a 21st century meca/powerhouse in the information economy?
i.e. Is connectivty, alone, the catalyst America needs?
If not what else does it need?

the trouble is the answers are years off, and it's not quite as simple as concieved.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

reply to David
That is true. And a good share of the ads on FB are still delivered by doubleclick.com according to their cookies.

But as we all know- the bigger they are the harder they fall and the time will come. MSFT came to that fall. Google will be the next of that size. Many outlets were putting out at the first of the year about how Google will be next along with Apple. The day will soon come. After all Dell has reached its market for consumer products; and left. They reached their fall as things become more tight in the consumer markets.


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Backbone fiber has nothing to do with FTTH. Backbone fiber cable goes for miles with out any cuts or connectors.



tshirt
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I understand that, what I was saying is that the area around KC is not a technology wasteland that some portray it to be.
Having all the core resources close by, made KC proper (both of them) the perfect blank slate for this experiment.



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said by 25139889:

That is true. And a good share of the ads on FB are still delivered by doubleclick.com according to their cookies.

But as we all know- the bigger they are the harder they fall and the time will come. MSFT came to that fall. Google will be the next of that size. Many outlets were putting out at the first of the year about how Google will be next along with Apple. The day will soon come. After all Dell has reached its market for consumer products; and left. They reached their fall as things become more tight in the consumer markets.

And that little pesky thing about privacy.... yea....Just think about it for a second.
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25139889

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privacy is done and over with. TOS/AUPs take that away.


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