 vue666I'm in the prime of my senilityPremium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS | reply to Horsey
Re: fukushima I'm very skeptical when it comes to fukushima warnings as it appears it is the same gloom & doom crowd who have been warning us about global warming.... Greenpeace, Sierra Club, David Suzuki are all anti-nuclear as well as evangelists of Al Gore... |
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| I'll tell you why i am not sceptical about it.....
It might be the doom and gloom crowd..... but the damage it faced and the water they pumped to cool the rods down, is somewhere right?
Its contained in this wall of concrete right?
Well they said their nuclear facilities were safe from earthquakes etc, well I guess it didn't survive much did it?
If concrete can crack at high magnitude these containers are not safe. |
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said by vue666:I'm very skeptical when it comes to fukushima warnings as it appears it is the same gloom & doom crowd who have been warning us about global warming.... Greenpeace, Sierra Club, David Suzuki are all anti-nuclear as well as evangelists of Al Gore...
Spoke like a true conservative.
Never let facts get in the way of a point of view or a decision.
If you don't trust the 'gloom & doom" crowd, as you so sound-bitely put it, then perhaps you should make it a project to educate yourself about reactor physics and about the properties of burning plutonium-enriched fuel. That should take you about 6 years of education (B.Sc and a master's before you can say you have a basic education in that). Then read up on medical physics (4 years for an M.D. & then another 4 years of specialty training) and what happens to the human body when you inhale microscopic particles of airborne plutonium & other radionuclides. After those 14 years of training you can proudly call yourself a novice and then begin your life-long journey into further understanding........as so many of the "gloom & doom" crowd you so blithely dismiss have done.
Perhaps you'd like a nice glass of Agent Orange to drink at breakfast time - it's orange...just like orange juice, so it must be safe to drink. Common sense, right? |
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said by MaynardKrebs:Perhaps you'd like a nice glass of Agent Orange to drink at breakfast time - it's orange...just like orange juice, so it must be safe to drink.
Rather than engage in exaggerated hysterics, which is often what turns the majority off when considering the outcome of these situations, why don't you educate us on the realistic issues faced after experiencing the items you list? You simply say "this is so bad" and "you really need to be so smart to understand why this is so bad" but "I have no idea why it's so bad so I'm not going to explain it but you're a true conservative so you're bad too". |
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vue666I'm in the prime of my senilityPremium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS | reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:said by vue666:I'm very skeptical when it comes to fukushima warnings as it appears it is the same gloom & doom crowd who have been warning us about global warming.... Greenpeace, Sierra Club, David Suzuki are all anti-nuclear as well as evangelists of Al Gore...
Spoke like a true conservative. Never let facts get in the way of a point of view or a decision. If you don't trust the 'gloom & doom" crowd, as you so sound-bitely put it, then perhaps you should make it a project to educate yourself about reactor physics and about the properties of burning plutonium-enriched fuel. That should take you about 6 years of education (B.Sc and a master's before you can say you have a basic education in that). Then read up on medical physics (4 years for an M.D. & then another 4 years of specialty training) and what happens to the human body when you inhale microscopic particles of airborne plutonium & other radionuclides. After those 14 years of training you can proudly call yourself a novice and then begin your life-long journey into further understanding........as so many of the "gloom & doom" crowd you so blithely dismiss have done. Perhaps you'd like a nice glass of Agent Orange to drink at breakfast time - it's orange...just like orange juice, so it must be safe to drink. Common sense, right? And these "facts" are resulting in knee jerk reactions like nuclear reactors being shut down in Europe.... Nuclear energy is the only feasible energy that makes sense for our future... BUT because of the doom & gloom crowd parts of the globe are going back to fossil fuels for their electric power plants... |
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| said by vue666:said by MaynardKrebs:said by vue666:I'm very skeptical when it comes to fukushima warnings as it appears it is the same gloom & doom crowd who have been warning us about global warming.... Greenpeace, Sierra Club, David Suzuki are all anti-nuclear as well as evangelists of Al Gore...
Spoke like a true conservative. Never let facts get in the way of a point of view or a decision. If you don't trust the 'gloom & doom" crowd, as you so sound-bitely put it, then perhaps you should make it a project to educate yourself about reactor physics and about the properties of burning plutonium-enriched fuel. That should take you about 6 years of education (B.Sc and a master's before you can say you have a basic education in that). Then read up on medical physics (4 years for an M.D. & then another 4 years of specialty training) and what happens to the human body when you inhale microscopic particles of airborne plutonium & other radionuclides. After those 14 years of training you can proudly call yourself a novice and then begin your life-long journey into further understanding........as so many of the "gloom & doom" crowd you so blithely dismiss have done. Perhaps you'd like a nice glass of Agent Orange to drink at breakfast time - it's orange...just like orange juice, so it must be safe to drink. Common sense, right? And these "facts" are resulting in knee jerk reactions like nuclear reactors being shut down in Europe.... Nuclear energy is the only feasible energy that makes sense for our future... BUT because of the doom & gloom crowd parts of the globe are going back to fossil fuels for their electric power plants... Most of the plants being shutdown are older ones in any event.
The bulk of the non-French reactors in Europe were built during the 'golden age' of building - 1960's-70's - and these are coming up on their 'best before' dates anyway.
The GE/Westinghouse LWR designs (and derivatives) are basically 'use once' throw-away at the end of their economic lives. Part of the reason why Candu reactors are relatively more expensive to construct is that they are designed to be able to be refurbished.
That Pickering's Candu reactors cost so much to refurb is in part due to some erroneous engineering assumptions made in the 1960's about how the fuel bundles would 'age' in the fuel tubes. That mistake has since been corrected in newer Candu 6 designs.
Aside from operational issues under extreme duress situations (Fukushima, Three Mile Island, Fermi, Chernobyl, Windscale, and other smaller incidents), nobody has yet operationalized a long-term used fuel strategy, and this is a major concern. Modern man has been around for 10,000 years - 'hot' plutonium will be around for 25,000 years - how should/can we deal with that?
US, Japanese, and most other Western reactor designs have their genesis in the US naval reactor program, whereas Canadian designs were done to permit a wide variety of fuels to be used at different points in the fuel cycle - sort of a RISC vs. CISC set of design tradeoffs. In fact, Candu's represent the best overall design to use while at the same time reducing used fuel stockpiles. The problem is that Canada eats it's young. |
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