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openbox9
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reply to SHoTTa35

Re: Stockholders are their real customers

Nothing prevents you from becoming an investor and enjoying both sides.


elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

thats not sustainable in the long run...
if i was going to invest that much they better have a 50 year plan



Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Nothing prevents you from becoming an investor and enjoying both sides.

I make way more in my investments in Verizon and Comcast than my bill comes to in a year. Works for me.


SHoTTa35

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reply to openbox9
That's sorta like paying the bully that beats you up everyday because he protects you from other bullies. You are better off not paying anyone and getting your butt kicked all the time or fight back but at least you'd have your money!

If I were a Verizon customer, i'd surely make a nice return on my investment only to faster and faster give it back to them.


openbox9
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reply to elios
What is it unsustainable?

You don't have to invest "that much money".


openbox9
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reply to Linklist
Yep, my VZ dividend covers my cellphone and FiOS internet service. Add in the capital appreciation and I'm happy.



elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

reply to openbox9
you cant grow 100% every year at some point your going hit a wall
and you can raise rates for ever ether at some point people will go else where or do with out
wile the short term may pay out your going to kill the company in the long run

FiOS was a long run plan the current CEO cant see past 5 years

at one point in time stocks were seen as long term investments (20 to 40 years) not turning a buck at the end of the quarter


CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
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join:2011-08-11
NYC
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reply to openbox9
You guys probably make more with your VZ dividends than I make actually doing work for them. Rumor is they are about to force the new cuts on us so you guys will get even more while we get less.


openbox9
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reply to elios
VZ is not growing at anywhere near 100%.

Sound investments can still be longterm holds, however as more info becomes more and more available for investors, the companies must be more productive. Gone are the days of "buy and hold".


openbox9
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reply to SHoTTa35
That's a bad analogy.

I invest for my family and my retirement. VZ is a relatively small portion of my portfolio. I pay for VZ cellphone and Internet access because I need them for work. There are no bullies or "insurance policies" involved.


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