| Montreal Continues To Decay... This time it took a casualty... THIS is the reason why I reject my relatives' offers to visit with them in that dying city...
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Man struck by falling bricks from Montreal building
A man was seriously injured late Tuesday and remains in hospital after bricks from a three-storey building collapsed on him while he was walking on the sidewalk.
A few hundred bricks came loose from the top of the downtown building, on the west side of De Bleury Street, south of Sherbrooke, and tumbled to the sidewalk, striking the man at around 11:30 p.m. ET.
According to Montreal police, he suffered severe injuries to his head and pelvis, and is in critical condition.
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kudos:1 | This isn't the first time a building has injured someone. One woman having lunch with her husband a few years ago had a huge piece of decorative concrete land on top of her, killing her instantly.
And on top of that, we have the terrorist students causing havoc in the city, which includes planting multiple smoke bombs in the metro in coordinated attacks.
This is definitely one summer where tourists should stay away from Montreal.
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said by lugnut :This time it took a casualty... THIS is the reason why I reject my relatives' offers to visit with them in that dying city...
I don't blame you... you never hear about falling pieces of building from Toronto or smaller areas like Niagara. |
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| said by urbanriot:said by lugnut :This time it took a casualty... THIS is the reason why I reject my relatives' offers to visit with them in that dying city...
I don't blame you... you never hear about falling pieces of building from Toronto or smaller areas like Niagara. The you chose to ignore it.
»cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012···306.html
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and there are quite a few more that you can learn about if someone could bother themselves to, that is.
Maybe I shouldn't have posted those links to Toronto's crumbling infrastructure? Maybe I shouldn't have said there is lots more (and their construction is 50-years newer!). Maybe someone won't want to live in or go to dying Toronto anymore 
lol, I made myself giggle. |
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kudos:2 | I think you missed the sarcasm. |
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| said by ekster:I think you missed the sarcasm.
A juvenile humour but sometimes you can't resist  |
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I saw it in Urbanriot, but not the other.... |
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| The last time I was in Montreal was about 4 or 5 years ago for a funeral. There is ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON of just how bad Montreal's infrastructure is until you spend a couple of days driving a rental car on those roads in January.
What I drove over were not potholes. They were CHASMS. I was literally terrified for my life crossing the Mercier and Champlain Bridges.
By comparison, Toronto's infrastructure is brand new and state of the art. Words utterly fail me at just how dangerous a city Montreal has become when it comes to general road safety. |
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| said by lugnut :By comparison, Toronto's infrastructure is brand new and state of the art. Words utterly fail me at just how dangerous a city Montreal has become when it comes to general road safety.
Ok, I may be out of the loop as I have not visited TO in about 10 years, but when did this occur?
Last time I was there, driving around d-town / business section the roads were on par with Montreal's, especially with the tram tracks in all over the place. It was orange cone city jr.
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If Montreal is decaying and/or dying, why do you think that is?
(Asked out of my own ignorance. I have not been there since 1968). |
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kudos:20 | When it comes to stuff like roads, it's because they invariable subscribe to the "do it cheap and pretty now to save money today" strategy.
Instead of repaving a road, for example, which would last many years (dig it down to the gravel and rebuild from there), they just resurface a road, which means that just a year later it's already starting to crack (winters are brutal with the expanding and contracting from temperature swings).
West island municipalities in Montreal tend to subscribe to the "do it right now to save money tomorrow" strategy. It cost a bunch more up-front, but they won't need to re-pave that road for decades.
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said by urbanriot:said by lugnut :This time it took a casualty... THIS is the reason why I reject my relatives' offers to visit with them in that dying city...
I don't blame you... you never hear about falling pieces of building from Toronto or smaller areas like Niagara. No, Toronto only has the Gardiner Expressway dropping chunks of concrete on Lakeshore, and we have Condo's with exploding windows.
But building debris..OH wait, didn't First Canadian Place have some chunks of marble fall last year or the year before that?
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| Yea, and we've had people killed from falling debris here in Niagara too. Not to understate the seriousness of Montreal's issues, if they have many or not, but this is a general problem in cities.
We had a guy in Fort Erie that was evaluating the safety of a Chinese restaurant about a decade ago and he was killed by a falling dragon or something similar. Sadly ironic. |
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Re: Montreal Continues To Decay... said by elwoodblues:said by urbanriot:said by lugnut :This time it took a casualty... THIS is the reason why I reject my relatives' offers to visit with them in that dying city...
I don't blame you... you never hear about falling pieces of building from Toronto or smaller areas like Niagara. No, Toronto only has the Gardiner Expressway dropping chunks of concrete on Lakeshore, and we have Condo's with exploding windows. But building debris..OH wait, didn't First Canadian Place have some chunks of marble fall last year or the year before that? The difference is orders of magnitude between Montreal and Toronto's infrastructure woes. The Gardiner has a few concrete pebbles fall off of it and the media goes ape-sh*t. Meanwhile in Montreal entire overpasses collapse and support beams the size of boxcars land on the Ville Marie Expressway!
Seriously, anyone who hasn't been to Montreal in the past 5 years has no idea what they're talking about. Hell just look at the photo in the linked article. That wasn't just a couple of bricks that fell. It was an entire brick wall that collapsed onto that pedestrian. |
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said by Guspaz:When it comes to stuff like roads, it's because they invariable subscribe to the "do it cheap and pretty now to save money today" strategy.
Instead of repaving a road, for example, which would last many years (dig it down to the gravel and rebuild from there), they just resurface a road, which means that just a year later it's already starting to crack (winters are brutal with the expanding and contracting from temperature swings).
West island municipalities in Montreal tend to subscribe to the "do it right now to save money tomorrow" strategy. It cost a bunch more up-front, but they won't need to re-pave that road for decades.
Don't forget all the corruption in Montreal City Hall with inspectors not doing their jobs and being paid to "overlook" a few code violations. |
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said by urbanriot:Yea, and we've had people killed from falling debris here in Niagara too. Not to understate the seriousness of Montreal's issues, if they have many or not, but this is a general problem in cities.
We had a guy in Fort Erie that was evaluating the safety of a Chinese restaurant about a decade ago and he was killed by a falling dragon or something similar. Sadly ironic. Haha, yeah. There was also the parking garage that collapsed in Windsor not too long ago.
Still, you don't exactly see entire overpasses collapsing onto freeways and turning drivers into pancakes like you do in Quebec. If it was once you could just shrug it off as a fluke, but it has happened more than once. And, while we may have a chunk of concrete fall off the Gardiner or the Martindale Road overpass that was built in 1938 (and has since been replaced) the entire bloody things don't fall down. |
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| said by Gone:Still, you don't exactly see entire overpasses collapsing onto freeways and turning drivers into pancakes like you do in Quebec. If it was once you could just shrug it off as a fluke, but it has happened more than once.
With the harsh weather, there is less room for skipping maintenance or for doing crappy maintenance.
I've lived in Detroit and Pittsburgh (years ago, before the GOP's global warming) so I have had at least a little experience with harsh winters. |
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said by Gone:Still, you don't exactly see entire overpasses collapsing onto freeways and turning drivers into pancakes like you do in Quebec. If it was once you could just shrug it off as a fluke, but it has happened more than once.
Ahh, I only heard of the one time. So perhaps Quebec is winning this competition? |
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Yup. This is also the reason why new Ontario construction uses huge earth berms and tunnels (see »maps.google.ca/?ll=43.753784,-79···,,0,4.48) rather than long elevated viaducts or concrete support structures like they do in parts of the Southern US. Handles freeze/thaw cycles much better, and in turn is a whole hell of a lot cheaper to maintain even though it might take longer to initially construct. |
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