 OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | Intel Thunderbolt on Windows Demo MSI Z77A-GD80»www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_I3DyApLCk
A First Look at Thunderbolt on Windows with MSI's Z77A-GD80
GIGABYTE Readies Three New Motherboard Models with Thunderbolt
While the MSI Z77A-GD80 will have a Thunderbolt port (one) it will be more expensive in part because of it. The Asus implementation of Intel Thunderbolt takes a different approach by spanning quite a few of their Z77 motherboards (different price points) using a Thunderbolt header “TB_Header” and an upcoming Thunderbolt add-in card. |
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And we are ALL winners!!!
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Octavean
Well, Intel Thunderbolt has already been out for something like a year. Presumably Intel will move it over to optical sometime soon as well which means things will just get even faster. I agree that maturity is something needed here though. Part of the impediment with respect to growth of the platform was clearly the number of users which was restricted due to the Apple only release. While the PC / Windows release does help increase the potential user base it is still restricted to a specific subset of new Z77 users. Further still the MSI approach is to only release Thunderbolt on the more expensive boards (something that a lot of people wont pay more for). Asus has the Thunderbolt “TB_Header” on even some of its cheaper Z77 boards such as the P8Z77-V LK which is on sale now at Newegg for ~$149. 99. The necessary Thunderbolt add-in controller card will probably be something like ~$40 to ~$50 USD though:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13131837
The possibilities are interesting though. In theory you could connect a video card externally as well. Something I suspect nVidia and ATI would or could be interested in. Sometimes the physical space needed for SLI / Xfire can get tight on the motherboard or you have to give up slots between the necessary slots for the GPU in such configurations. One could also have desktop like graphics on their laptop if said laptop had a Thunderbolt port. |
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Thunderbolt is extremely awesome for laptops. Connect your laptop to a Thunderbolt display like Apple's and it becomes a dock.
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 Anonymous_AnonymousPremium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
kudos:2 | reply to Octavean
Lost me at 32bits of color
It's only 24bits+8bit alpha channel
Deep color is (30/36/48-bit) |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium
join:2000-01-13
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It will be nice to be able to start using a universal cable, but I would like more than one controller/port for redundancy. It would also seem to suffer from failures in the chain from cables, connectors, and possibly even hardware problem, which is why I also don't generally chain usb devices.
I'll just say I've seen quite a few cheap cables in my lifetime, and poorly designed connectors which get loose, then the device no longer works. It will likely be worth it to spend a few bucks more for quality(not monster, etc) cables, and the companies who made the devices don't try to claim limited warranty when their connector was only soldiered to the board with wave soldiering which can produce hollow soldier connection.
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
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New York, NY
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1 edit | I believe the only Thunderbolt cables available are from Apple and they are about $50. So not exactly “cheap”. Cheaply made, possibly, but I suspect that they put some effort into it as they don’t want to tick off people paying ~$50 for a cable any more then necessary.
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If I recall correctly, the MSI Z77A-GD80 only has the one Thunderbolt port but the upcoming Asus Thunderbolt solution for use with their Z77 line (“TB_Header“) will have two different cards. One with a single Thunderbolt port and one with two Thunderbolt ports. I’m not sure how accurate this info is though as these cards were supposedly going to be available about the same time Ivy Bridge CPUs went on sale,…..that ship has sailed,… |
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 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium
join:2001-11-22
NanoParticle
kudos:4 | reply to Octavean
So Will this supplant USB, Firewire, Display Port, Network, etcetera? Or rather, what devices will use it, will there be hubs needed, and how is video connected-does the card have tbolt connectors? |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | said by signmeuptoo:So Will this supplant USB, Firewire, Display Port, Network, etcetera? Or rather, what devices will use it, will there be hubs needed, and how is video connected-does the card have tbolt connectors?
Supplant, no I wouldn’t think so. Certainly not right away anyway. Thunderbolt is more like a BUS such as PCIe. You can run USB, Firewire, DisplayPort, Network, SAS, SATA and so on off of PCIe and the same should be true of Thunderbolt albeit externally rather then internally.
The typical interface for Thunderbolt is min-DisplayPort or what looks like a min-DisplayPort socket / plug. |
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| said by Octavean:said by signmeuptoo:So Will this supplant USB, Firewire, Display Port, Network, etcetera? Or rather, what devices will use it, will there be hubs needed, and how is video connected-does the card have tbolt connectors?
Supplant, no I wouldn’t think so. Certainly not right away anyway. Thunderbolt is more like a BUS such as PCIe. You can run USB, Firewire, DisplayPort, Network, SAS, SATA and so on off of PCIe and the same should be true of Thunderbolt albeit externally rather then internally. The typical interface for Thunderbolt is min-DisplayPort or what looks like a min-DisplayPort socket / plug. Thunderbolt is literally PCI Express and DisplayPort over a cable. Think of it as a way to get a PCI Express 4x slot outside your PC.
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Octavean
quote:
Intel Desktop Board Extreme Series DZ77RE-75K Pictured
Intel is ready to top off its Desktop Board Extreme Series 7-series "Panther Point" lineup with the DZ77RE-75K. Its most characteristic feature is Thunderbolt I/O. Along with a handful other high-end socket LGA1155 motherboards featuring the 10 Gb/s interconnect, the DZ77RE-75K will be launched early next week.
To a very large extant, the DZ77RE-75K resembles the DZ77GA-70K, which Intel topped its Desktop Board "Panther Point" lineup with. In fact, the two share the same PCB design. The only distinguishing feature of the DZ77RE-75K is the presence of a mini-DisplayPort+Thunderbolt connector, and a DSL3310 Thunderbolt controller driving it, in tandem with Intel FDI. The DSL3310, unfortunately, is a slim variant in Intel's Thunderbolt controller lineup, and only takes advantage of PCI-Express 2.0 x2, so Thunderbolt might not perform to its fullest.
» www.techpowerup.com/166238/Intel···red.html quote:
Intel's first Thunderbolt equipped motherboard nearly here
Reported by LG Nilsson on Friday, May 18 2012 7:14 am
We have to say that Intel's first Thunderbolt equipped motherboard is something of an anti-climax, as the DZ77RE-75K is nigh on identical to the DZ77GA-70K, although we spotted at least one change beyond the Thunderbolt port. On top of that, it's also quite an expensive motherboard, more so than MSI's Z77A-GD80.
Read more: »vr-zone.com/articles/intel-s-fir···vEG8SeUF
» vr-zone.com/articles/intel-s-fir···909.html |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Octavean
quote:
ASUS Launches First Intel Thunderbolt Certified Motherboard
Further demonstrating its market leading innovation, ASUS has announced the launch of its P8Z77-V PREMIUM motherboard - the flagship of the P8Z77 Series and the first Intel certified motherboard in the market to offer the latest Thunderbolt connection interface. The PREMIUM designation has been reserved for only the best motherboards with the latest technologies, and the P8Z77-V PREMIUM maintains this standard. In addition to the onboard Thunderbolt connection on the P8Z77-V PREMIUM, ASUS also offers the same technology on the P8Z77-V PRO/THUNDERBOLT to give consumers a wider range of choices.
"Intel and Asus have worked closely on the implementation of Thunderbolt technology onto Asus motherboards," said Jason Ziller, Intel's Director of Thunderbolt Marketing. "The P8Z77-V PREMIUM is the first Thunderbolt certified motherboard in the industry, a testament to its solid design and compatibility."
»www.techpowerup.com/166399/ASUS-···ard.html |
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 KilroyPremium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI | reply to Octavean
Monoprice has a few Thunderbolt cables.
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | I could be wrong but these basically look like Mini DisplayPort cables and Adapters. For example, I have a Mini Dsplayport to DisplayPort cable I bought for my Wife to use with her MBP and an ASUS 27" LCD. Neither the ASUS 27" LCD or the MBP specifically support Thunderbolt.
I guess technically they can just slap the name Thunderbolt on them but it's not like you can connect these cables to a Thunderbolt RAID array. |
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KilroyPremium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI | I'd think that any Thunderbolt, non-display, item you buy should come with its own cable. Right now these would be premium items and should have everything you need in the box.
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | said by Kilroy:I'd think that any Thunderbolt, non-display, item you buy should come with its own cable. Right now these would be premium items and should have everything you need in the box.
Well let's test that theory:
Western Digital My Book Thunderbolt Duo 6TB 3.5" Thunderbolt Dual-drive Storage System $649.99
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Package Contents
Dual-drive storage system with Thunderbolt connector
AC adapter
Quick install guide
(Thunderbolt cable must be purchased separately.)
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KilroyPremium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI | Guess they don't want to sell any. Then again I'd be hard pressed to trust 6TB of my data to Western Digital.
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | said by Kilroy:Guess they don't want to sell any. Then again I'd be hard pressed to trust 6TB of my data to Western Digital. There are still a lot of people who are saying the same thing about SSD units today but I'm sure you and I both have at least one SSD.
I think Thunderbolt stagnated a bit due to its Apple only release but coming to the PC can change that. |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Octavean
MSI Z77A GD80 Review |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
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MSI Z77A-GD80 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $269.99
ASUS P8Z77-V PREMIUM LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $449.99 |
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