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J E F F
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Outdoor Shed

So I am building one of those cheap 6'x8' (about 6' tall) metal sheds in the backyard, to store garden/lawn/snow blower, etc. I need to know best way to anchor it. How much weight should be holding it down?

My first idea was to drill plywood into the floor frame then laying concrete, maybe 200-300 pounds or so, but I get the feeling that won't be enough. I do have cinder blocks laying around too...

Thoughts?
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aurgathor

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There are anchors with straps for mobile homes -- 4 should be more than enough for your shed, one each corner.

Personally, I've seen that type of sheds pretty much freestanding, held down by the weight of stuff stored inside. We don't usually have really big winds here in the PNW, though.
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cowboyro

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reply to J E F F
My advice - don't bother with metal sheds. They are flimsy.
Mine is screwed into the floor frame. With the weight of the stuff inside it's not going anywhere.



J E F F
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There are a lot of microbursts around here, about 70-100 MPH winds. Fun to watch...except when a roof lands on the car.
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aurgathor

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In that case you probably want something reasonably good.

Other options would be pouring a concrete slab first. and then anchoring the shed to it. That should take care of the floor, too.
For something less 'concrete' ( ) you can just dig 4 or 6 post holes, put in short 4 by 4 posts, fasten the building to said posts, and then pour in some concrete to fill up the holes.
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J E F F
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I think anchors and poured concrete might do the trick. I just don't want pissed off neighbours whining about the shed going into their backyard.
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We had a 100+ MPH gust here the other day and a tree landed on the house. Ouch! The tree just bloomed so the leaves captured maximum air.. Then I found out insurance is 1k deductible

The shape of the structure has a lot to do with wind grab tho.. The next shed I build will be a geodesic dome shape that is much less sensitive to wind force..



J E F F
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This shed is a good 80 or 90 feed from the house...hopefully no tree's hit it, or the house...

Where you located? Nevada?
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I'm in Northern Nevada.. It's like Florida for building codes, 110 MPH garage door code rating, expensive hold downs for building etc..

I cut the limbs that were not holding the tree up first and than used the forklift I had out back to lift the tree off the house to save the windows because the tree probably would have dropped into the glass if I cut in the wrong place..


Caledfwlch10

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Lucky that didn't damage the house at all.



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There's a bit more damage than can be seen in those picts. The 60' long seamless gutter is junk and the wiring inside for ice protection is damaged. The 2 year old roof needs about 40 shingles to bring it back to shape. The fiber cement siding got scratched on the side of the house but could have been a lot worse..


Caledfwlch10

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Wind damage
Not sure on the metal shed but I can say a portable 10'x15' structure can withstand New England winter's and 60-70 mph wind. One of the ground anchors came lose in the wind this year. It caused half of the structure to flap in the wind which ripped the fabric some. You can see in the last picture it ripped the fabric like 4' as it should be pulled tight on that black strap. I repaired it and it hasn't ripped anymore since. If anchored in the ground securely I'd say it would be fine. I'd just stress it be anchored VERY VERY VERY well.

I'd use something like this on the metal shed most likely.
»www.amazon.com/Ground-Anchor-Sys···&sr=8-11
or
»www.walmart.com/ip/Auger-Anchor-···/4764788

I can tell you the 15" ground anchor's won't cut it for sure. Lucky for me the left side is anchored directly into the asphalt. The middle 2 legs have (3) 50 lb walldog's and the ends have 8" lag bolts.


J E F F
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reply to macsierra
Damn that sucks...



The Pig
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reply to J E F F
Cheap fix!
When you build the base frame for the shed drive in some 2x4 stakes about 2' down and bolt them to the sheds base frame!




J E F F
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reply to Caledfwlch10
I am wondering if I should just augur 2' and cement and anchor. New England has more wind than here because you're more likely to get the Nor'easter's. It's these damned microbursts that worry me....they only last a few seconds but we had one on Thursday and it took out a housing development. Confirmed NOT TO BE a tornado. Everything simply flattened. Went from 82F to 60F in about 30 minutes...just crazy.
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Caledfwlch10

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How I'd do it if it was going to be a permanent structure is this. I'd go with 30-36" augurs. I'd dig like a 6-8" hole where each will go. Next I'd install the augurs so that the eye hole was like 1" above the ground. Then I'd fill the hole with concrete. Not sure how well that would work but it seems solid in theory.



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said by Caledfwlch10:

Then I'd fill the hole with concrete. Not sure how well that would work but it seems solid in theory.

Nice pun....
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Caledfwlch10

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Thanks! You could go further and get like 8x8 landscaping timbers to make a frame with. Dig a 8" deep hole the size of the shed then build a frame with the timbers and bracket them together. Then put augurs at the corners flush with the frame so the shed sits level. Then fill the middle with crushed stone or concrete. Put the shed on top of that foundation and secure it to the eye holes of the now secure augurs. Seems like overkill there but I typically do overkill on stuff. LOL

The new garage we're having built is being built better then code. Rafters upgraded from 2x8 to 2x10. Ridge upgraded from 2x8 to 2x12. Studs upgraded from 2x4 to 2x6. Plywood for the walls upgraded from 5/8" to 3/4". They are going to build it to be tornado rated instead of just hurricane rated. I love overkill!



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reply to aurgathor
Well, got the shed done, just got to do some anchoring, hopefully the floor kit and anchor won't conflict one another. Picture to follow.
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And I was gonna advise against those metal sheds.. Put one up and regretted not just building one out of lumber. Would have saved me a lot of time, would have been sturdier and nicer looking. Ah well. It's the new owners' problem even though it was still in 1 piece and looking decent last time I saw it (a couple of weeks ago).. Because it was on a grade, I stacked 18x18" patio stones on top of gravel and got it nice and level. Anchored it into the patio stones. Never used the foundation kit, but I built my own with 2x4's, with cinderblocks for some extra support (wanted overkill as it was used for parking 2 motorcycles).
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