Teksavvy Stop sell on Phone Transfers - TekSavvy

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bbiab join:2004-05-26	reply to PRIUS Re: Teksavvy Stop sell on Phone Transfers What was the price of the Lite after the increase?
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PRIUS join:2009-09-17 Toronto, ON	$2.00 more. . . »www.digitalhome.ca/2011/11/bell-···ew-year/
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Fed Up join:2007-02-19 m4m2v 1 edit	Well, I'm pulling the plug on Bell. Switching to cable 28/1 (300GB) for the same price per month as I would have if I just switched to dry loop for my current DSL 6/.8 (300GB) without all the headaches of attempting porting numbers at the same time as activating dry loop. I'll then port my number to Tek Talk and go with the basic pulling my costs for phone from $30 to $10 and cancel Bell all together. I save money and Bell can go screw themselves!!! As for the hardware and activation costs, they will pay for themselves soon enough.
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sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa kudos:4 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	reply to Fed Up The only problem with POTS is the telcos overcharging for it. If POTS was still a reasonable price with features like SMS etc. on top of POTS, and a closer interconnection between POTS and cell for when you're out of the home ... i.e. make it amore integrated system, people wouldn't be ditching POTS in favour of cell and voip. I really don't understand the glory of voip ... you throw packets at a black box that you pray will get out the other side ... hopefully in a timely manner but comes totally without guarantees. The only thing really going for it is cheap. Cable phone is all very well, but for the fact it's run by the cable company who have little sense of how important phone service actually is so have no desire to get it back up on a priority basis when things don't work!
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Mersault join:2007-10-26 Toronto, ON	sbrook, most POTS is VOIP on the backend these days. Instead of having a linksys ATA or something at the customer premises, they have giant ATAs with thousands of ports at the central offices. But from there it's just VOIP. I'm sure that Bell still has lots of legacy equipment and that plenty of calls travel long distances in copper still, but they're actively ripping those parts of the network out and replacing it with a VOIP network. And they've probably done plenty of the network already. So the VOIP vs. POTS argument is actually just one of arguing over when the conversion from VOIP to something your phone understands will take place. The real magic of VOIP happens when you have phones that can talk SIP directly. Business is actively migrating to VOIP handsets on desks. Unfortunately the residential VOIP handset market is... underdeveloped.
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newBell @bell.ca	said by Mersault: sbrook, most POTS is VOIP on the backend these days. Instead of having a linksys ATA or something at the customer premises, they have giant ATAs with thousands of ports at the central offices. But from there it's just VOIP. It may be voip in the backend, but the front end still need to meet very stringent uptime requirement (the five 9's). And chances are that the IP based network is dedicated and engineered more carefully than you typical home user's ISP. said by Mersault: The real magic of VOIP happens when you have phones that can talk SIP directly. Business is actively migrating to VOIP handsets on desks. Unfortunately the residential VOIP handset market is... underdeveloped. Business are migrating because they think it will lower their communication cost, including long distance charges. (And supposedly simplified infrastruture, i.e., no separate wiring for data and vocie). While there are benefits, there are drawbacks, most noticeably are decrease in voice quality (echo, jitter etc). I don't know what "magic" you are talking about. What is so special about having a SIP set? I get caller ID just as well with a analog line. Sure call origination may be a bit faster but how many people would notice. Unless you have a true voip provider, no one can call you via a true sip address (e.g., FPL won't).
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Mango www.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:11 Reviews: ·Anveo ·Shaw ·AcroVoice ·Callcentric ·callwithus ·voip.ms ·FreePhoneLine ·TELUS	said by newBell : (And supposedly simplified infrastruture, i.e., no separate wiring for data and vocie). This is a big selling point for me. I could build (for example) an Asterisk server out of any old computer hardware that could make my phones do card tricks. Or, I could install Asterisk on an underutilized server that I already have and spend exactly zero dollars. The possibilities of what you can do are pretty much limitless. The other advantage is that IP telephony is much easier to scale than analog telephony. I have an analog PBX that supports six lines. There is no way to upgrade it. If I ever need a seventh line I'll have to replace the PBX. My IP PBX on the other hand could handle 500 calls just as easy as five. said by newBell : While there are benefits, there are drawbacks, most noticeably are decrease in voice quality (echo, jitter etc). If I built you a VoIP system, there would be no decrease in voice quality said by newBell : What is so special about having a SIP set? Admittedly very little for a residential user. - Marginally better voice quality, though many people wouldn't notice. - Significantly better voice quality when calling another SIP user that uses G.722. - More/better/easier features for call handling. - "XML Browser" to (among other things) make phones interact with customer management systems. m. -- Recommended ATA Settings \| e164 - make your DID accessible via SIPBroker!
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newBell @bell.ca	said by Mango: said by newBell : While there are benefits, there are drawbacks, most noticeably are decrease in voice quality (echo, jitter etc). If I built you a VoIP system, there would be no decrease in voice quality No thanks. My home set up has no voice quality issue but I am aware of businesses having problems. said by Mango: - Marginally better voice quality, though many people wouldn't notice. - Significantly better voice quality when calling another SIP user that uses G.722. Only if the other endpoint supports G.722. My voip.ms account would only accept G.711 and G.729, for example.
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Ott_Cable @teksavvy.com	reply to Mango Mango wrote: >I could build (for example) an Asterisk server out of any old computer hardware that could make my phones do card tricks. While that's true for other full service VoIP providers, but not so for TekTalk as they do not go beyond old residential "one number per account" POTS replacement only VoIP service.
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meglin1 join:2006-02-10 Ottawa, ON	reply to Fed Up Can someone from TSI please explain what is going on with POTS transfers from Bell? I want to move my 80 year old Mother in law to TSI, she is paying over $100 a month to Bell and I don't want to get her trapped in a contract by negotiating with Bell.
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TSI Martin Premium join:2006-02-23 Chatham, ON kudos:23	It's pretty much was diskace said here : »Re: Teksavvy Stop sell on Phone Transfers
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meglin1 join:2006-02-10 Ottawa, ON	Hi Martin, When will the stop sell be lifted? If it is a month to month thing, if I call at the beginning of the month, can I do the transfer? If you have used up this year's transfers, let us know and we can make an informed choice to change numbers, change technology (not an option in this case) or go to another provider (I hope not!) Please be open about when and how this might be resolved. Thanks
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TSI Martin Premium join:2006-02-23 Chatham, ON kudos:23	I don't currently have an ETA, but I'll see if I can't get more info.
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Kahless2k join:2009-06-13 Brantford, ON	Were you able to track down any more info? I'm a reseller and have a bunch of people waiting to give you money.
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TSI Martin Premium join:2006-02-23 Chatham, ON kudos:23	Still nothing for now. Waiting on a reply.
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petecool join:2011-09-22	Hi Martin, Any news? I looked for a long time and I haven't seen anybody else reselling Bell POTS lines in the area.
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TSI Martin Premium join:2006-02-23 Chatham, ON kudos:23	Nothing official as of now. No ETA set.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to Mersault said by Mersault: sbrook, most POTS is VOIP on the backend these days. Instead of having a linksys ATA or something at the customer premises, they have giant ATAs with thousands of ports at the central offices. But from there it's just VOIP. So the VOIP vs. POTS argument is actually just one of arguing over when the conversion from VOIP to something your phone understands will take place. I'd love to see the avg residential VoIP setup come even remotely close to the reliability of POTS at the customer side and VoIP on the backend. They're not the same. No, there is more to the argument than that. You just do not value the advantages POTS has vs the cost of having the features.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to newBell said by newBell : said by Mersault: sbrook, most POTS is VOIP on the backend these days. Instead of having a linksys ATA or something at the customer premises, they have giant ATAs with thousands of ports at the central offices. But from there it's just VOIP. It may be voip in the backend, but the front end still need to meet very stringent uptime requirement (the five 9's). And chances are that the IP based network is dedicated and engineered more carefully than you typical home user's ISP. said by Mersault: The real magic of VOIP happens when you have phones that can talk SIP directly. Business is actively migrating to VOIP handsets on desks. Unfortunately the residential VOIP handset market is... underdeveloped. Business are migrating because they think it will lower their communication cost, including long distance charges. (And supposedly simplified infrastruture, i.e., no separate wiring for data and vocie). While there are benefits, there are drawbacks, most noticeably are decrease in voice quality (echo, jitter etc). I don't know what "magic" you are talking about. What is so special about having a SIP set? I get caller ID just as well with a analog line. Sure call origination may be a bit faster but how many people would notice. Unless you have a true voip provider, no one can call you via a true sip address (e.g., FPL won't). +1 There isn't any "magic".
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graniterock join:2003-03-14 London, ON Reviews: ·WIND Mobile ·TekSavvy Cable ·TekSavvy DSL	reply to Fed Up I've often been on here going on about sticking with POTS to keep 911 service etc... But I've seen the light and will be making the jump. I've actually been surprised at the increase in sound quality and tell the difference when using my POTS vs my test VOIP line. I will be porting my land line over to a voip provider and paying extra for their 911 service as soon as a I get a UPS for the modem/router/voip box. And as a bonus it will likely cost me about 5 or 6 dollars a month vs the $50(?!?!) I pay bell.
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