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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Skitter paying fees unlike Aereo I don't see this as the same as Aereo. Skitter went to the trouble of getting retransmission rights(which Aereo didn't and led to the lawsuit against them) and is only selling their service in to areas where they obtained(and paid for) those rights. That doesn't mean someone may not sue them, but it certainly appears they have followed the rules unlike Aereo which is using some tech tricks to avoid paying fees. |
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LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by fifty nine:Sounds fishy to me. How did they get "licenses?"
They went to the local broadcast stations just like a cable company would and did a contract for retransmission rights. In this case in Portland, Oregon. They can't service customers outside the Portland, Oregon service area. |
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 Oh_NoTrogglus normalus
join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | reply to Linklist
Aereo is not retransmitting.
They are leasing antenna\equipment that the end users uses to pick up the OTA signals. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to Linklist
Yup. I know of one telco that has a "legit" IPTV setup that feeds into their own Skitter system. It isn't live the last time I checked though...may be now. |
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Less about "how", more about "why" (which had nothing to do with offering this consumer service). |
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said by Linklist:said by fifty nine:Sounds fishy to me. How did they get "licenses?"
They went to the local broadcast stations just like a cable company would and did a contract for retransmission rights. In this case in Portland, Oregon. They can't service customers outside the Portland, Oregon service area. I find it strange that any TV station would license their content strictly for internet viewing.
So it looks like they didn't do that. They partnered with local telcos, sold them the technology and applied for the licenses under this umbrella.
Expect lawsuits sooner or later. |
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said by Oh_No:Aereo is not retransmitting.
They are leasing antenna\equipment that the end users uses to pick up the OTA signals.
The courts will decide that.
And if they are streaming to iPads they are at the very least manipulating the stream. iPads cannot display a MPEG 2 transport stream. So they'll be classified like cable companies, who need a license to carry content. |
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said by Oh_No:Aereo is not retransmitting.
They are leasing antenna\equipment that the end users uses to pick up the OTA signals.
You keep saying this like it's established fact. In reality this is simply one side's contention (Aereo), the other side (the local stations) have a completely different view, and the courts will decide who prevails. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:Expect lawsuits sooner or later.
Lawsuits or not, at the very least Skitter's rates will likely increase when it comes time to renegotiate the retransmission agreements that it's currently exploiting.
said by GigaOM :The company has been offering its over-the-top solution to a few of these providers, which required it to get retransmission licenses from the affected broadcasters. Skitter is now using these retrans licenses to kickstart its own consumer business. |
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Oh_NoTrogglus normalus
join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | reply to fifty nine
You lease equipment/antenna for Aereo to stream over the internet for personal use.
It is no different if I stream my MCE PC TV signal to my mobile devices over the internet with equipment I own.
The only different is with Aereo you lease the equipment instead of owning it. |
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Oh_NoTrogglus normalus
join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | reply to MyDogHsFleas
said by MyDogHsFleas:said by Oh_No:Aereo is not retransmitting.
They are leasing antenna\equipment that the end users uses to pick up the OTA signals.
You keep saying this like it's established fact. In reality this is simply one side's contention (Aereo), the other side (the local stations) have a completely different view, and the courts will decide who prevails. I am stating the 100% facts.
You lease an antenna and equipment from Aereo and connect to the TV signal from the leased equipment for personal use with a long cord. There is no argument here.
The argument is leasing equipment the same thing as retransmitting. If you look up the what retransmitting means in the dictionary it is not the same thing. |
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said by Oh_No:You lease equipment/antenna for Aereo to stream over the internet for personal use.
It is no different if I stream my MCE PC TV signal to my mobile devices over the internet with equipment I own.
The only different is with Aereo you lease the equipment instead of owning it.
That won't fly when Aereo is processing and streaming the signal.
The cable companies are essentially doing the same thing - receiving, processing and retransmitting a signal to you. They have to pay. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to Oh_No
said by Oh_No:The argument is leasing equipment the same thing as retransmitting.
If the government says it is then it is. Why do you think the many cable systems that receive one or more digital television stations with an antenna are not claiming that they are simply leasing equipment to their residential subscribers for personal use? |
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Oh_NoTrogglus normalus
join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:said by Oh_No:You lease equipment/antenna for Aereo to stream over the internet for personal use.
It is no different if I stream my MCE PC TV signal to my mobile devices over the internet with equipment I own.
The only different is with Aereo you lease the equipment instead of owning it.
That won't fly when Aereo is processing and streaming the signal. The cable companies are essentially doing the same thing - receiving, processing and retransmitting a signal to you. They have to pay. Nope, the equipment you lease from them processes and streams the signal for personal use.
The key is they lease individual antennas to do this so its like one long cord. One antenna per person.
Cable uses one antenna connected to multiple people. |
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LOL I'm glad you have this all decided in your head, OhNo. Back here in the real world it IS a question with two sides and the courts will decide. |
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Oh_NoTrogglus normalus
join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | said by MyDogHsFleas:LOL I'm glad you have this all decided in your head, OhNo. Back here in the real world it IS a question with two sides and the courts will decide.
The only way Aereo can lose is if the court can limit the size of your cord for media or not allow companies to lease equipment used for media or if the court ignores the dictionary and intent of the copyright law. |
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