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haroldo

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[iPad] iPad may join Aspirin, Heroin, as generic name

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iPad may join Aspirin, Heroin, as generic name, branding experts say
Published April 09, 2012
| Associated Press
NEW YORK – Apple is on the verge of doing what few others have: change the English language.
When you have a boo-boo, you reach for a Band-Aid not a bandage. When you need to blow your nose, you ask for Kleenex not tissue. If you decide to look up something online, you Google instead of search for it. And if you want to buy a tablet computer, there's a good chance there's only one name you'll remember.
"For the vast majority, the idea of a tablet is really captured by the idea of an iPad,"' says Josh Davis, a manager at Abt Electronics in Chicago. "They gave birth to the whole category and brought it to life."
Companies trip over themselves to make their brands household names. But only a few brands become so engrained in the lexicon that they're synonymous with the products themselves. This so-called "genericization" can be both good and bad for companies like Apple, which must balance their desire for brand recognition with their disdain for brand deterioration...
Read more: »www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/04/···ple-know


donoreo
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My 5 year old daughters both call their Vtech Innotabs iPads.



Octavean
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reply to haroldo
Personally I use the terms “bandage”, “tissue” and “search” more often when referring to such things. I even use the term “diaper” not “pampers” as some people do,…

I call my “iPad” an “iPad” though,…..

I call my “HP Touchpad” a “TouchPad” and I call my Asus Eee Slate EP121 Windows 7 tablet,…..well that’s kind of long winded so I usually call it a Windows tablet,…

I try to be precise. Many who don’t may do so out of a lack of understanding,…..IE ignorance.



haroldo

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said by Octavean:

...

I try to be precise. Many who don’t may do so out of a lack of understanding,…..IE ignorance.

It's not ignorance, it's common usage.

If someone has a runny nose and asks for a Kleenex and all you have is a generic store brand box of tissues, do you tell them you don't have a Kleenex or do you give them the tissue?


Nezmo
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reply to haroldo
Always leave it to FOX to report on the important stuff.



Razzy12345

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ipad is ipad, iphone is iphone, android tablet is android tablet.

There's no way in hell I'd call my Windows 8 tablet or Android tablet (if I ever get one...) ipads ;p

I never called a tissue a kleenex... I always call it "tissues".



Razzy12345

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said by haroldo:

It's not ignorance, it's common usage.

Nope definitely ignorance.

said by haroldo:

If someone has a runny nose and asks for a Kleenex and all you have is a generic store brand box of tissues, do you tell them you don't have a Kleenex or do you give them the tissue?

I'll call that person a dumbass and get me a fucking tissue


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said by Razzy12345 :

said by haroldo:

It's not ignorance, it's common usage.

Nope definitely ignorance....

So you've never used the word aspirin, band-aid, escalator, dry ice, laundromat, video tape, windbreaker or xerox ? Never?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ge···ademarks


Razzy12345

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Nope I always asked for Advil and in my mind "I want Advil only". That person would ask me if ibuprofen is okay - depending how shitty I feel - I'll take the offer. Although aspirin is a generic name (like ibuprofen). You'll see "aspirin" on many different brand of bottles. Do you with iPad with Android tablet?

No I called it bandages.

Nope, never say "xerox". just photo copy or copy. Cuz Xerox is a company name...


decx
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Re: [iPad] iPad may join Aspirin, Heroin, as generic name

said by Razzy12345 :

Nope I always asked for Advil and in my mind "I want Advil only". That person would ask me if ibuprofen is okay - depending how shitty I feel - I'll take the offer. Although aspirin is a generic name (like ibuprofen). You'll see "aspirin" on many different brand of bottles. Do you with iPad with Android tablet?

Actually Aspirin (with a capitalized "A") is a trademark owned by Bayer. The actual drug itself is acetylsalicylic acid (ASA). The problem Bayer has is that Aspirin has become commonly used to refer to ASA in general which cased the trademark to become genericized in the US.


John Galt
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said by decx:

Actually Aspirin (with a capitalized "A") is a trademark owned by Beyer. The actual drug itself is acetylsalicylic acid (ASA). The problem Beyer has is that Aspirin has become commonly used to refer to ASA in general which cased the trademark to become genericized in the US.

"Bayer"...


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said by haroldo:

said by Octavean:

...

I try to be precise. Many who don’t may do so out of a lack of understanding,…..IE ignorance.

It's not ignorance, it's common usage.

If someone has a runny nose and asks for a Kleenex and all you have is a generic store brand box of tissues, do you tell them you don't have a Kleenex or do you give them the tissue?

I'll put it this way,....

If someone were talking to me using broken English I would talk to them using the way I was taught by my parents (mother was an English teacher). That is to say the best and most correct way that I can keeping in mind that everyone makes mistakes.

decx
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reply to John Galt
Oops



Razzy12345

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If you look at its history, you'd see why.

Also I don't think Apple (and late Steve Jobs) would appreiate this article. And there are companies who doesnt like these kind of things.

I seriously doubt I'll be calling android tablets or windows 8 tablets "ipad"... no way.



Fronkman
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said by Razzy12345 :

Nope I always asked for Advil and in my mind "I want Advil only". That person would ask me if ibuprofen is okay - depending how shitty I feel - I'll take the offer. Although aspirin is a generic name (like ibuprofen).

really, you would rather have a headache than take a generic ibuprofen?
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Note that many of the terms which are "generic" in north america such as Aspirin or Ozonol and not common elsewhere in the english langage because those products are either sold under a different name elsewhere, or another product is more popular. In Australia, they tend to use "paracematol" to refer to pain killers.

Heck, at one point "7-up" was generic term to denote colourless fizzy drink in north america, but that brand has fizzled out due to competition and the brand being shifted from one onwer to the next. (In australia they call those drinks "lemonade".)

I think it is too early to tell whether "iPad" will become generic. And it will be the younger generation which decides.

I think the last such precedent was set by Sony and its Walkman. I still think "walkman" when I think of my ipod or my iphone in music playing mode.



MemphisPCGuy
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I bet Pepsi has quite a time being called a "coke" but I appreciate when a fast food joint asks if Pepsi is ok.. so I can change to Dr. Pepper or something
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Razzy12345

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It's not the headaches I'm having...



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said by donoreo:

My 5 year old daughters both call their Vtech Innotabs iPads.

That's a little different though. I strongly suspect that many InnoTabs are purchased to keep the kids off of Mom & Dad's iPads, and they perpetuate calling it an iPad to keep the focus off of theirs.

I don't think I've ever heard someone call an Android phone an "iPhone", I don't see why an iPad would suffer a different fate. An Android tablet is not compatible with the same software as an iPad, so the distinction is important to someone purchasing them or using them.

The distinction between a facial tissue and a Kleenex brand tissue is not important when I need to blow my nose. If I need to make a photocopy and I put a page down on some machine, I don't really care what the brand was as long as I got my duplicate. Nor do I really care if I get generic Ibuprofen or Advil when I get a headache, but Advil is easier to say.
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