 TSI MartinPremium
join:2006-02-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:23 | reply to TwiztedZero
Re: Bell 50/10 What you are saying would apply to Cable & not DSL. |
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join:2003-11-09
Canada | reply to niveous
Oddly enough, the Fibe 50 package was available to me a few days ago, but as I check now, Fibe 25 is the maximum offered.
When I spoke to a Bell tech on Saturday that happened to be working in the area, he said Fibe 50 was available, my line stats show up to 70mbps down (unsure about upstream). 
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said by InvalidError:said by the cerberus:It's also very interesting that no TPIA provider has access to Rogers, Shaw or Cogeco's top speeds either.
I believe the speed matching decision requires all of these.
The only way around it would be if they had FTTH which wholesales not allowed access to. In the cableco's last round of CRTC filings, they say they will only make speed-matching rates available on aggregated-POI as extra incentive for non-aggregated ISPs to migrate their service sooner rather than later and avoid wasting resources supporting non-aggregated capacity expansion when non-aggregated is officially end-of-life. That's all well and good, but not even the first aggregated TPIA provider, start.ca, has the faster tiers. |
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| said by the cerberus:That's all well and good, but not even the first aggregated TPIA provider, start.ca, has the faster tiers. I imagine a company that's just starting out might not necessarily be interested in going all-out off-the-bat while they have little to no stats to base their pricing and plans on... many existing TPIA and GAS providers opted to wait a few weeks/months before finalizing their new plans to see what demand and costs were going to be like under new tariffs. |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
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said by the cerberus:That's all well and good, but not even the first aggregated TPIA provider, start.ca, has the faster tiers.
To quote them on that topic:
higher speeds will be coming in a couple of months after we have a good feel for what the network impact is. We want to prevent any type of backhaul congestion problems. |
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gord27
join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to niveous
So if it's FTTH how does my address get it when afaik there is no fibre coming into the house?
While the speeds sound nice the cap is brutal so I won't be switching anytime soon but just curious.
Hmm, though I am now thinking about 25/7 mlppp...  |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by gord27:So if it's FTTH how does my address get it when afaik there is no fibre coming into the house?
While the speeds sound nice the cap is brutal so I won't be switching anytime soon but just curious.
Hmm, though I am now thinking about 25/7 mlppp...
If your area has FTTH, Bell would send a tech or two to splice the fiber and install it inside your house. |
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| Its a very unimpressive FTTH offering.
These speeds can be obtained on DSL and Cable, and the cap is just laughable.
Would be nice if we had a symmetrical tier and speeds like verizon fios.
I guess this is what happens when you have no competition 
said by kovy:said by gord27:So if it's FTTH how does my address get it when afaik there is no fibre coming into the house?
While the speeds sound nice the cap is brutal so I won't be switching anytime soon but just curious.
Hmm, though I am now thinking about 25/7 mlppp...
If your area has FTTH, Bell would send a tech or two to splice the fiber and install it inside your house. So the fibre node is about 200metres away from me, and all the telephone and cable wires are buried underground in my neighbourhood, so I guess they would have to dig a trench too? |
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gord27
join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to kovy
said by kovy:said by gord27:So if it's FTTH how does my address get it when afaik there is no fibre coming into the house?
While the speeds sound nice the cap is brutal so I won't be switching anytime soon but just curious.
Hmm, though I am now thinking about 25/7 mlppp...
If your area has FTTH, Bell would send a tech or two to splice the fiber and install it inside your house. Well it says 50/10 is available to my address. I'm almost curious to sign up to see what happens... |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by gord27:said by kovy:said by gord27:So if it's FTTH how does my address get it when afaik there is no fibre coming into the house?
While the speeds sound nice the cap is brutal so I won't be switching anytime soon but just curious.
Hmm, though I am now thinking about 25/7 mlppp...
If your area has FTTH, Bell would send a tech or two to splice the fiber and install it inside your house. Well it says 50/10 is available to my address. I'm almost curious to sign up to see what happens... Alot of people are getting the "it's not available in your area" so call and see lol. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | reply to the cerberus
said by the cerberus:Its a very unimpressive FTTH offering.
These speeds can be obtained on DSL and Cable, and the cap is just laughable.
Would be nice if we had a symmetrical tier and speeds like verizon fios.
I guess this is what happens when you have no competition
said by kovy:said by gord27:So if it's FTTH how does my address get it when afaik there is no fibre coming into the house?
While the speeds sound nice the cap is brutal so I won't be switching anytime soon but just curious.
Hmm, though I am now thinking about 25/7 mlppp...
If your area has FTTH, Bell would send a tech or two to splice the fiber and install it inside your house. So the fibre node is about 200metres away from me, and all the telephone and cable wires are buried underground in my neighbourhood, so I guess they would have to dig a trench too? I'm not talking about FTTN here...
I haven't seen FTTH in neighbourhoods of underground cable, yet. So not sure how they will do it. |
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| I wasn't talking about FTTN really either, I'm just speculating that if there's a node down the road fed with fibre bell probably didn't run/dig and bury just 1 strand.
They probably intended on using the rest or use at least the same run to wire the neighbourhood out from there.
I do not actually know about the internals of bells network, so they could have fibre closer to me by now, however I haven't seen them burying it on my street yet. |
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 JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:3
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said by the cerberus:said by InvalidError:said by the cerberus:It's also very interesting that no TPIA provider has access to Rogers, Shaw or Cogeco's top speeds either.
I believe the speed matching decision requires all of these.
The only way around it would be if they had FTTH which wholesales not allowed access to. In the cableco's last round of CRTC filings, they say they will only make speed-matching rates available on aggregated-POI as extra incentive for non-aggregated ISPs to migrate their service sooner rather than later and avoid wasting resources supporting non-aggregated capacity expansion when non-aggregated is officially end-of-life. That's all well and good, but not even the first aggregated TPIA provider, start.ca, has the faster tiers. All TPIA providers have access to the faster tiers, they are just choosing not to sell them yet. |
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Just to clear up the higher tier TPIA confusion here, only CIK Telecom (aggregated TPIA I believe) offers 75/2 in rogersland. But they say its 50/2.
»www.ciktel.com/Main/Eng/Resident···able.asp |
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gord27
join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to niveous
could they not do 50/10 over vdsl? |
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join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
kudos:1 | reply to niveous
I just got off the phone with a bell rep. he said the 50/10 teir is exclusively FTTH, he said a tech would come and splice fiber in to a hub in your home. |
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said by gord27:could they not do 50/10 over vdsl?
They could do 50/10 over VDSL2 but then wholesalers would have access to it, FTTH ensures they dont |
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A family member has just moved into a new house in Carp (about 25km outside of Ottawa). It's just a small village but they managed to get FTTH on that tier. A Bell tech had to come and pull a cable from the road to their house - I presume the builder had already laid the conduit. |
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JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:3 Reviews:
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| said by compchris:A family member has just moved into a new house in Carp (about 25km outside of Ottawa). It's just a small village but they managed to get FTTH on that tier. A Bell tech had to come and pull a cable from the road to their house - I presume the builder had already laid the conduit.
How new is the house? Because from what I've heard Bell is no longer installing copper in new developments. |
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said by the cerberus:said by gord27:could they not do 50/10 over vdsl?
They could do 50/10 over VDSL2 but then wholesalers would have access to it, FTTH ensures they dont With Ikanos remotes supporting only up to 12a profiles, hitting 50/10 would limit reach to something like 100m... a large chunk of that distance budget is often gone before reaching the first subscriber. They'd need 17a gear such as the Alcatel 7356 / 7357 to achieve 50+Mbps on a much broader scale.
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