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tom thomas

join:2010-11-04

reply to PX Eliezer

Re: no room for multiple similar products in the mainstream?

PX,

when it comes to automobiles Chrysler, ford and GM all make 4 door family sedans. that would be vonage. they also all make pickup trunks(skype) and compact two doors(magicjack).

with mainstream VOIP there is no direct head on competition it seems.

except of course with the small lesser known companies.

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said by tom thomas:

with mainstream VOIP there is no direct head on competition it seems

But the cable company phone services (Comcast, Cox, TW, Cablevision/Optimum) have millions of lines and do compete with POTS on the one hand and Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-Verse on the other. And their main independent competitor is Vonage, but yes, MagicJack and Skype have large presences there.

There are many companies that cater to business communications, such as special programs from the cable companies (eg Optimum Lightpath) as well as providers such as Paetec, Vocalocity/Aptela, Packet8, etc. Skype as well---especially for overseas calls.

If you are saying that Vonage is the big independent VoIP and that no one else matches their size, that's true. I think that reasons for that include:

a) Vonage was an early entrant, and grew rapidly at first when they didn't have as much competition even from cable outfits.

b) Residential VoIP is not nearly as profitable per line as Business VoIP.

c) Vonage has always had a somewhat difficult time in the stock market. Investors are skittish about the residential VoIP sector.

d) Another thing that makes Residential so challenging (more so than Business) is the massive defection to cellphones especially among the young.

One reason that I do hope that Vonage stays around is that the big cable outfits NEED competition. That's the same reason that I am a supporter of good quality VoIP providers of any size.


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said by PX Eliezer:

said by tom thomas:

with mainstream VOIP there is no direct head on competition it seems

But the cable company phone services (Comcast, Cox, TW, Cablevision/Optimum) have millions of lines and do compete with POTS on the one hand and Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-Verse on the other. And their main independent competitor is Vonage, but yes, MagicJack and Skype have large presences there.

I was just thinking that cable companies are as big or bigger, yet their image as a phone service is overlooked here because they don't have a phone specific brand recognition.

People like me, are inclined to lump them with AT&T and the other evil giants that have no personal connection to the "regular guy"
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