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Re: I'm Finally Leaving Garbage ROGERS For WIND My bill is a steady $67 each month. Why? Because I know what services I pay for.
If your bill is more than the quoted price, that means you blindly agreed to something you didn't understand, and who's fault is that? Certainly not rogers.
Judging by your attitude towards rogers, you're probably going to run into some issues with any carrier you go with because you don't understand what you're actually paying for. Good luck, anyway. |
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| Welcome.... Hope you enjoy your new phone and plan. I switched 2 years ago and get awesome service and signal. For me this was one of the best decisions I have made. I was a customer of rogers and they always over billed and I had to make many calls to get these fixed. They hope you are one of the sheep that just pays your bill and doesn't complain.
For my phone service I pay a total of $480 a year now. (Plus tax of course lol). That i simply amazing. If I choose to get another phone I save and buy it outright.
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said by randomzero:My bill is a steady $67 each month. Why? Because I know what services I pay for.
If your bill is more than the quoted price, that means you blindly agreed to something you didn't understand, and who's fault is that? Certainly not rogers.
Judging by your attitude towards rogers, you're probably going to run into some issues with any carrier you go with because you don't understand what you're actually paying for. Good luck, anyway.
-My bill should be $70 a month, not $117, can you tell me how in hell do I ALWAYS rack-up $117 a month right on the dot? Why not $93 or $89, always $117, as if Rogers said "Okay let's peg this idiot at $117 a month regardless how many text messages he makes or if he doesn't". I am sometimes offered by Rogers to pay "in advance" next month's bill in their iphone app, guess how much they tell me to pay? $117. How the hell do they conclude that my April bill will be $117?
-No I will NOT have problems with WIND, I have only heard good things about them and how they do not lie or try to trick you like Rogers, as long as they keep true to their word that it's $40/month how will I get into a fight with them?
-You pay $67/month with Rogers for your voice/data plan? Now that's a dumb thing to do, with WIND you will get MORE for $40 bucks, do you enjoy paying $27 more for haff of what Rogers offers?  |
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| You're full of crap. You obviously don't know what you signed up for if your bill is always $117/mo regardless of your usage (read: You have contracted for services that cost that much).
I have stuck with Rogers because Wind isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I have family that switched to Wind. Of them 50% have switched back away from Wind due to poor coverage, poor customer service, AND billing errors that always ended up in Wind's favour.
Everyone I know with Wind has had major problems with dropped calls and slow data services. I pay a premium with Rogers to avoid those issues.
My Rogers bill is the same $93/mo every month. I've taken advantage of their MY10 Canada wide service to essentially make it unlimited for my use and I have sufficient data so that I can stream internet radio every day while I'm at work without worrying about going over.
Does it cost me more to be with Rogers than Wind or Mobilicity? Sure it does. But at the same time it's short sighted and rude of you to call people stupid for paying more money for BETTER SERVICE.
At the end of the day, Wind will either go bankrupt or will end up with pricing structures similar to the major Canadian carriers. They are losing too much money now to sustain their current strategy.
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I could tell you exactly how you've gotten a $117 bill, providing you actually show a bill.
When you actually work in the industry, you hear a lot from all the different carriers. When you have a few friends here and there, and read a few forums here and there, you're not likely going to hear all that much.
Yes, $67/month. Because I actually leave the coverage area (friends and family outside of the network. Work on the outskirts of coverage area and people with Wind don't get coverage, at all). And that $40/month is for the first year, what's it cost after the first year?
As I've pointed out in a few other threads, city dwellers might like the smaller carriers, but they don't suit everyone. Someone I work with has Wind and can testify that near the outskirts of town, the signal drops to null. Want to guess how often the signals dropped for me? I've also, again, heard from many different people that there are quite a few areas where coverage isn't all that great once you near the outskirts. GTA being one of them, there's a fairly large area that's simply not covered by Wind. |
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| said by randomzero: And that $40/month is for the first year, what's it cost after the first year?
$40.00 |
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said by TLS2000:Everyone I know with Wind has had major problems with dropped calls and slow data services. I pay a premium with Rogers to avoid those issues. That's funny. I'm posting this right now from a Wind Mobile data stick and it works just great. I'm actually surprised at how low the latency is. |
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| said by Gone:said by TLS2000:Everyone I know with Wind has had major problems with dropped calls and slow data services. I pay a premium with Rogers to avoid those issues. That's funny. I'm posting this right now from a Wind Mobile data stick and it works just great. I'm actually surprised at how low the latency is. What is the latency anyway? I can use my LTE phone in Wifi hotspot mode to play on Xbox live without issue.
My brother has Wind and has a BlackBerry Bold 9780. He still has issues with no signal in downtown Toronto. The problem is Wind's AWS band doesn't penetrate buildings as well as Robelus's 850mhz bands. This is a technical limitation that Wind will not be able to solve unless they get some 700mhz bands. Their benevolent leader has already announced his intention to boycott that auction.
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| said by TLS2000:What is the latency anyway? I can use my LTE phone in Wifi hotspot mode to play on Xbox live without issue. If I ping Google right now using the Wind stick, it's 66ms. This is far far better than I expected, though I've heard LTE is even lower. Last night I was downloading some stuff and pulling close to 600KB/s. Like I said, I can't complain.
said by TLS2000:My brother has Wind and has a BlackBerry Bold 9780. He still has issues with no signal in downtown Toronto. The problem is Wind's AWS band doesn't penetrate buildings as well as Robelus's 850mhz bands. This is a technical limitation that Wind will not be able to solve unless they get some 700mhz bands. Their benevolent leader has already announced his intention to boycott that auction. They won't boycott the auction, no matter what he may say. Fido and Clearnet used to operate on just 1900MHz, so this isn't exactly unheard of. Having said that, Wind doesn't need 700MHz for coverage in urban areas (for HSPA at least - LTE is a whole other matter) as the tower density should be enough to penetrate buildings even using the 1700 and 2100MHz channels on AWS. 700MHz helps tremendously with rural and outlying areas though, and would provide the bandwidth necessary to deploy LTE. People talk about 700MHz as if it would be some magic fix for coverage holes in the urban areas they already cover, but the reality of the fact is that it won't be, and there's nothing they can do with 700MHz in a high tower density area than they can't already do with AWS.
I remember when Rogers first deployed GSM and were using just 1900MHz even in the middle of nowhere as the 850MHz spec hadn't been finalized. It was fine in town, no issues at all. Go further out and Swiss cheese would be the best description. I made a point of getting an 850/1900 phone before Rogers had 850 running. Once they turned on 850 it made no difference in town, but was like night and day once you went out into the countryside. |
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said by TLS2000:The problem is Wind's AWS band doesn't penetrate buildings as well as Robelus's 850mhz bands. This is a technical limitation that Wind will not be able to solve unless they get some 700mhz bands. It's not that simple. Different frequencies are better suited to different applications. Generally 1700MHz short wavelength with high cell density can perform better for urban coverage than 700MHz long wavelength and low cell density.
The higher frequencies may not be able to penetrate concrete as well but they they don't need to if they can enter buildings through small openings like doors and windows and refract off surfaces better once inside the building. It's just a matter of network design.
If you look at a tower map in any given area Robellus has more cells than Wind and that's really the only issue related to poor reception right now: »loxcel.com/celltower
700MHz will be important if new entrants want to do rural expansion because it can reduce costs 75% (they only need 1 tower instead of 4 per 2500 sq km). There are less dense materials in open fields of farmland or forest or a couple of wooden frame houses than there are in a city, so long wavelength with a single tower will work here.
Remember UMTS 2100 has been used for years in most places around the world and there are no consistently documented horror stories of poor indoor coverage that I'm aware of. |
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| Agreed. I remember roaming in South Korea where the only frequency used is 2100mhz. Had reception practically everywhere. |
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