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Re: Wasting more $$$ said by mikedz4:where was this "nsa" before 9-11? This is all post 9-11 stuff. It's all infringing on our freedoms and rights.
Before 9/11? Definitely not.
They've been snooping even before, the technologies and methodologies were not just as advanced.
In the morning of 9/11, before the second tower was attacked, I sent out a text message to my sister (who lives overseas) informing her about what happened to the WTC. In a matter of a few minutes, I got a mysterious call. Apparently, they were looking for some people, and obviously I told her she probably got the wrong number.
Then the lady heard I'm watching the news. She casually said, "Oh, you're watching that too ...". She apologized, and hung up.
I never got wrong numbers on that phone before, and only family members and very close friends new about that number.
After that call, I immediately suspected that my number got flagged because of the text message I sent.
Instead of getting mad, I was impressed, and hoped they track the badies.
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| said by AlphaOne:I really don't mind the inconvenience, if it's for the common good. Which is what makes you part of the problem.
You are a fool if you think the safety you are getting comes anywhere close to the cost in rights and liberties you are given up.
The forefathers had great insight into the corruption and power hunger that feeds the governmental beast. Well beyond even they could imagine. Slowly, we the people are allowing them to remove all hurdles to absolute power all in the name of our safety.
Do you realize it is "One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country."? (quote attributed to Charlie Reese articles.orlandosentinel.com/201···con-game) Thats right, those 545 people are 100% responsible for every problem this country has had and will have and nothing will change until we make it.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
Frederic Bastiat |
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So how do you feel knowing that all your calls, texts, e-mails and web searches since that day will be eventually be stored in Utah for analysis?
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kudos:2 | said by pende_tim:So how do you feel knowing that all your calls, texts, e-mails and web searches since that day will be eventually be stored in Utah for analysis? Mine already are. 
As if Google has not been doing this for years anyway?  |
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| Although it is a matter of degrees, I would rather Google track me that an all powerful secretive Government Agency that feels that neither the constitution or Due Process apply to them.
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| and what's not to say that google isn't just handing over all that information to the government
amazes me how much leeway google gets on this site considering that any and all large companies are evil around here |
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said by tcope:said by pende_tim:So how do you feel knowing that all your calls, texts, e-mails and web searches since that day will be eventually be stored in Utah for analysis? Mine already are. As if Google has not been doing this for years anyway? Google can't "disappear" you into some third-world country for "enhanced interrogation" just because you said something that made you a "person of interest".
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"Those willing to give up liberty for security deserve niether and will lose both"- Ben Franklin Pay attention. |
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