 vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | reply to PToN
Re: Wasting more $$$ It's a matter of national security. If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to fear. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. It's for the children.
Ok, I think I've covered all the usual platitudes. |
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 phxmarkWhat Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ | said by mikedz4:where was this "nsa" before 9-11? This is all post 9-11 stuff. It's all infringing on our freedoms and rights.
We have no freedoms or rights in this country since the new dictator took over. |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to vpoko
said by vpoko:It's a matter of national security.
Security forum here had a long discussion about this:
»Wired article explains NSA decrypting plans & new facility |
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vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | reply to phxmark
I've got some news for you, the new dictator has been doing more of the same thing as the last several dictators. Certainly there was a post 9/11 executive power grab but that mostly happened under Bush. Not that it wouldn't have happened under Clinton or Obama, it's just when the opportunity presented itself. |
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join:2003-08-17
Friendswood, TX | reply to vpoko
I am an old fart who remembers the cold war and during that time thought how horrible to live in a society where the KGB kept watch over their citizens. Proud of the rights and freedoms we have in the USA. Today, not so much. |
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vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | reply to Linklist
I never did trust AES because of it being the official cypher of the US government. If they're encouraging general use, it means they have a way of breaking it. Use Twofish, Serpent, Rijndael, or even a some combination of them, and don't skimp on the bits. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | reply to vpoko
said by vpoko:It's a matter of national security. If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to fear. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. It's for the children.
Ok, I think I've covered all the usual platitudes.
You left out Copyright Infringement
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said by mikedz4:where was this "nsa" before 9-11? This is all post 9-11 stuff. It's all infringing on our freedoms and rights.
Before 9/11? Definitely not.
They've been snooping even before, the technologies and methodologies were not just as advanced.
In the morning of 9/11, before the second tower was attacked, I sent out a text message to my sister (who lives overseas) informing her about what happened to the WTC. In a matter of a few minutes, I got a mysterious call. Apparently, they were looking for some people, and obviously I told her she probably got the wrong number.
Then the lady heard I'm watching the news. She casually said, "Oh, you're watching that too ...". She apologized, and hung up.
I never got wrong numbers on that phone before, and only family members and very close friends new about that number.
After that call, I immediately suspected that my number got flagged because of the text message I sent.
Instead of getting mad, I was impressed, and hoped they track the badies.
I really don't mind the inconvenience, if it's for the common good. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to vpoko
Re: Wasting more $$$ Is there a way to utilize others in OpenVPN? |
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said by AlphaOne:I really don't mind the inconvenience, if it's for the common good. Which is what makes you part of the problem.
You are a fool if you think the safety you are getting comes anywhere close to the cost in rights and liberties you are given up.
The forefathers had great insight into the corruption and power hunger that feeds the governmental beast. Well beyond even they could imagine. Slowly, we the people are allowing them to remove all hurdles to absolute power all in the name of our safety.
Do you realize it is "One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country."? (quote attributed to Charlie Reese articles.orlandosentinel.com/201···con-game) Thats right, those 545 people are 100% responsible for every problem this country has had and will have and nothing will change until we make it.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
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vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | reply to Simba7
I'm not familiar with OpenVPN. |
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Simba7I Void Warranties
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Billings, MT | reply to KrK
I wouldn't put it pass them. For just the right amount of money, the NSA can find every copyright infringer in the world. |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
join:2011-08-11
NYC
kudos:1 | reply to vpoko
It's going to create jobs. |
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Rijndael == AES |
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vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | You're absolutely right, I stand corrected. |
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So how do you feel knowing that all your calls, texts, e-mails and web searches since that day will be eventually be stored in Utah for analysis?
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