| Splice Fiber? My landscapers cut my fiber run, which was (obviously poorly) buried between the street and my house. The VZ tech just came out and told me that he cannot splice it and will have to lay a temp run of fiber across the lawn, until the trenching team can come & bury it (when???).
This sucks because my ONT is in the basement and it was a bitch to seal the hole in the house, when the original cable was installed.
I always thought that fiber could be spliced.
Can it? IF so, what would you do? Tell the tech that if he won't splice it - get someone who will. Or, just deal with a new run and the PITA of resealing the intrusion through the house wall?
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kes601
join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2 | My vote is to deal with it. |
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I wouldn't want a splice underground in my front lawn. |
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf.
join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:8
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Splicing fiber isn't like splicing coax, you can't just throw a barrel splice on it and wrap it with tape.
To splice a damaged fiber your need a few feet of extra slack at the splice point to be able to prep the fiber, get it to the splicing machine to fix, and then store the spliced fiber in a waterproof splice case. See this page for some details of what's needed:
»us.telecomosp.com/fiber%20optic%···drop.htm
So in the end you'd have to have a buried vault where the splice case (unless the direct bury the case too) is and your drop would be a few feet shorter.
If the fiber is already direct bury, there's no easy way to pull the slack needed.
Just get a new drop.
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richta
join:2012-03-01
Port Washington, NY | reply to stevec325
What is Fiber Optic Splicing
Simply put, fiber optic splicing involves joining two fiber optic cables together. The other, more common, method of joining fibers is called termination or connectorization. Fiber splicing typically results in lower light loss and back reflection than termination making it the preferred method when the cable runs are too long for a single length of fiber or when joining two different types of cable together, such as a 48-fiber cable to four 12-fiber cables. Splicing is also used to restore fiber optic cables when a buried cable is accidentally severed.
»www.tecratools.com/pages/tecaler···ide.html |
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i had them splice the wire going into my basement cause I did not want such a large hole for the head of the fiber.
They brought this expensive splicing machine to my basement and put the head of the fiber back on, so the hole in the house was much smaller and less caulking to fill it in.
the tech told me he was not supposed to do it for people, but I begged and wined till he caved in. |
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:8 | said by bigpapae35:i had them splice the wire going into my basement cause I did not want such a large hole for the head of the fiber.
They brought this expensive splicing machine to my basement and put the head of the fiber back on, so the hole in the house was much smaller and less caulking to fill it in.
the tech told me he was not supposed to do it for people, but I begged and wined till he caved in.
Yeah and that's at the end of the cable where there is already slack and it's easier to store the splice in the existing fiber enclosure.
Imagine what you'd do if that splice enclosure was in the middle of the cable and the cable was already buried.
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So.... at the end of the day - they just came & went. They ran a temp line from the box at the street across the lawn (dotted with little red flags) and into my house and the ONT.
The plan is for the contractors or someone, to return and bury conduit from the box at the street - to the house. Then run the line in that.
Supposedly, conduit is the new "standard"; not direct bury. We'll see if that happens.
Hopefully, that will take place early next week.
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| They most likely won't place conduit. They will direct bury another drop and a tech will return to terminate the replacement fiber. It won't be next week either most likely, as it is normally 7-10 business days for the PA 1 call to go through and then the contractor to schedule it in to the workload. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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| said by Acc708:They most likely won't place conduit. They will direct bury another drop and a tech will return to terminate the replacement fiber. It won't be next week either most likely, as it is normally 7-10 business days for the PA 1 call to go through and then the contractor to schedule it in to the workload.
In my area, I had my fiber line cut three times. each time I asked why they didn't put conduit in since it would be cheaper than having to come back out every time it is cut and bury the fiber again .(The Comcast people cut my FiOS line 3 times(once on purpose) and the FiOS people cut the Comcast line 3 times)
Now they put conduit in for all the installations in my area but mine is still direct buried since I got it back in 2007. Although I have not had my line cut in a long time now since everyone in my building has FiOS. But the first time someone switches back to Comcast, I'm sure they will cut my line again. |
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 JD
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said by stevec325:My landscapers cut my fiber run, which was (obviously poorly) buried between the street and my house.
DigSafe (or the PA equivalent) probably was not called to locate the underground utility, or they did not mark the location on private property.
You were hiring work to be done, and you didn't tell them what was buried?
I know where my water and gas line runs. Contractors must always know underground utility location, otherwise it will be hit. Murphy's Law reigns.
Direct burial of fiber is always shallow. |
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Splicing fiber is hard. I really doubt any VZ tech would be able to do it. |
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"I had my fiber line cut three times."
Gezz. How many times will it get cut before you start telling people "Hey I've got fiber over there"?
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They make a new Fiber Term head for the ONT side that is removeable for doing inside insstalls, When I had the install done last year, the Tech showed me. We didn't use it since I had 1.5" Duct already ran. Basically it's an optical Adapter for the ONT. |
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said by JD :said by stevec325:My landscapers cut my fiber run, which was (obviously poorly) buried between the street and my house.
DigSafe (or the PA equivalent) probably was not called to locate the underground utility, or they did not mark the location on private property. You were hiring work to be done, and you didn't tell them what was buried? I know where my water and gas line runs. Contractors must always know underground utility location, otherwise it will be hit. Murphy's Law reigns. Direct burial of fiber is always shallow. I know where everything is buried. I did major landscaping 2 years ago and had all the util's marked and I kept the plans for that.
Ummm... no. I did not think landscapers who were edging the beds (about 3" deep) would come anywhere near close to the fiber. I also assumed (now I know wrongly) that, either: a) it was in conduit or b) it was deeper than 3-4". In fact, it probably wasn't even that deep in the beds. The idiot installers most likely just covered it with mulch.
Clearly, it's a poor fiber installation. No one in their right mind would install that way. Even the FioS tech who came out said that the contractors who ran the line should have known better. He believes that all new installs are now mandated to be in conduit. No more direct bury.
Like I said.. we'll see.
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nyfios
join:2008-07-06
Hicksville, NY | reply to stevec325
Ask the Tech to inst a splice box on the outside of your home. Then bury the Fiber service wire on your property. |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
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said by JD :said by stevec325:My landscapers cut my fiber run, which was (obviously poorly) buried between the street and my house.
DigSafe (or the PA equivalent) probably was not called to locate the underground utility, or they did not mark the location on private property. You were hiring work to be done, and you didn't tell them what was buried? I know where my water and gas line runs. Contractors must always know underground utility location, otherwise it will be hit. Murphy's Law reigns. Direct burial of fiber is always shallow. Having it marked is no guarantee it won't be cut. The lines in my area were always marked before the contractors did any digging, but Comcast cut the FiOS fiber line three times, once on purpose, and FiOS cut the Comcast line three times as well. Before they did work every time, Miss Utility(the entity in this area that marks the lines) was contacted and marked everything. But the lines still got cut.
If I could go back in time I would have reported the Comcast contractor when they purposely cut the FiOS line. |
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rody_44Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA Reviews:
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In bucks county verizon wont slice house drops period. They require conduit under sidewalks and driveways. As far as the three inches you get what you pay for. Would you believe people actually still work for 5 dollars a hour? Yep less than minimum wage. They get around the minimum wage by paying by the day and requiring a certain amount of jobs getting done. Very tired and exhausted guys will show up to bury the line. |
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to fix a fibre break, you need a 3rd piece of cable. It gets spliced into one end and requires a splice case, the new piece then gets spliced into the other side of the cut piece. some times it can be done in one larger case that would then get burried. |
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"I also assumed (now I know wrongly) that, either: a) it was in conduit or b) it was deeper than 3-4". In fact, it probably wasn't even that deep in the beds."
That's why FiOS is cheaper than an enterprise fiber connection.
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