booj
join:2011-02-07
Richmond, ON | reply to LiQuiD
Re: Bell to acquire Astral media That's a giant list of content that will now never make it to Netflix. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
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That's OK.
NetFlix is just a convenient method to do something which we already did before in another way. |
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The content industry sure likes to complain about piracy but they sure dont make it easy to obtain content via legal means do they? |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
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said by elwoodblues:No bloody way the Goverment should allow this, but knowing them, it'll be a rubber stamp of approval.
I suspect they'll have to divest themselves of some of the radio assets for the deal to go through. Kind of like how CTV/Globemedia had to divest the CityTV channels as part of the CHUM acquisition. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6 | reply to DanteX
One thing which I find silly is that the 'BIG 4' US networks (CBS, etc) block Canadian IPs from streaming almost all content which originates from their production facilities.
Some of it we can stream thru Canadian networks' websites, such as CTV or Global, but why should CBS etc bother to block our IPs ?
Is it an agreement to support advertising revenue for the Canadian TV networks' streaming sites ?
Or something else ?
p2p was around before decent quality streaming became a reality, and will be around for a long time later.
So if they continue to make it difficult for us to get content the legal way, well.... |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
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said by Davesnothere:Is it an agreement to support advertising revenue for the Canadian TV networks' streaming sites ?
Or something else ?
International licencing agreements. They don't have the legal ability to make the content directly available to viewers outside of the US. Gotta love copyright law.
What drives me really nuts is when it's an extra-content style clip. Behind the scenes stuff, promo clip, etc, that isn't restricted under those agreements and it's still blocked off. |
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 SpikePremium
join:2008-05-16
Toronto, ON
4 edits | reply to LiQuiD
One thing I am glad about with the whole copyright extremism going on by lobbyists, and crappy laws like C11 getting passed (its as good as passed, and C11 is only the beginning), is that VPN uptake (and knowledge about VPN's) will just continue to grow. Their little strategy of GeoIP blocking content will just continue to get less and less effective. Not to mention its going to drive everybody underground, we already see it with huge uptake in cloud storage traffic. The file sharers will always have their options no matter what regurgitated crap from the content industry gets passed into law.
I guess they will call it piracy by using a VPN service to watch shows on Hulu next... I know some sites actually proxy traffic to legitimate US streams so anyone in the world can watch it, no VPN required.
The new strategy will be paying $10/mo for a good VPN, and dump their $100/mo Cable TV.
Sure they will probably attack VPN providers next, but that wont stop me from renting a virtual machine server (VPS) and setting up OpenVPN on it, lets see them try and stop a whole dedicated server rental market too....
I suppose once their war on cloud storage and file locker services winds down, the war on the whole server hosting business is next.
What other industry gets to outlaw entire established markets and new technology? Its sickening how much power big content truly has... |
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jpaik
join:2002-01-09
Hamilton, ON | reply to grunze510
said by grunze510:So let's see. Bell is a phone company, an internet company, has 2 wireless phone companies (Bell Mobility / Solo Mobile, and Virgin Mobile Canada which they fully bought out 3 years ago), 2 TV distribution mediums (Bell Satellite TV and Bell Fibe TV (IPTV)), they own a pretty huge media company (Bell Media), 2 electronics store chains (The Bell Store, and The Source which they bought about a year or 2 ago), and they own Bell Aliant in the Maritimes Add to that the irony of Rogers and Cogeco paying Bell for the rights to TMN, HBO, etc.
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SpikePremium
join:2008-05-16
Toronto, ON | said by jpaik:Add to that the irony of Rogers and Cogeco paying Bell for the rights to TMN, HBO, etc.
Well its not that Bell and Rogers actually try to compete, if they did you'd see a lot more content wars. You'd see entire channels on your Cable vanish like you do in the US due to disagreements on pricing and contract renewals. You see Rogers has rights to lots of stuff, as does Bell, yet both carry eachothers content. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to LiQuiD
And that's why we videotron subscribers had to wait ages to get Space and Discovery in HD. Bell owns them.
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bt
join:2009-02-26
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| said by Guspaz:And that's why we videotron subscribers had to wait ages to get Space and Discovery in HD. Bell owns them.
Everyone had to wait ages to get Space in HD. Though presumably you mean waiting even longer after they launched it last July. |
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grunze510
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
kudos:1 | I think there's a whole bunch of channels that Videotron doesn't offer in HD, like Animal Planet Canada. Oh, and would you look at who owns the channel...  |
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Thati s exactly what I have done. Have a VPS over seas with a provider who is user friendly wipes their butt with infringement notices and such.I set up a Openvpn server and even am looking at distributing keys to people I know and even try to branch out and sell keys for a decent price + SSH tunnel access as an addon |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 | reply to grunze510
Also just launched in HD, so it's not exactly like one side has been holding out on the other for years |
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 TwiztedZeroNine Zero Burp Nine SixPremium
join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
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Meh, I dun give a fig what they do to IPTV.
I have OTA HDTVvia ATSC Tuner CM4221 + XBMC along with plugin+plugin+plugin through Pc/laptop/Hdtv/tablet/etc.
I'm good (for now). Unless they suddenly turnabout and 'kill' OTA by requring a decoder box to decrypt signals. In which case Imma find a way to beat the sheet outa it. |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 | Psst.... OTA already does require a decoder. It's just (likely) build into your TV, and is unencrypted  |
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TwiztedZeroNine Zero Burp Nine SixPremium
join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
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said by Guspaz:And that's why we videotron subscribers had to wait ages to get Space and Discovery in HD. Bell owns them.
All of those are avail online. At least the ones they put on the web, you can usually see them via XBMC if you have the Canada on Demand Plugin. |
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Bell should've used that 3 billion for more Fibe TV expansion. I mean, in some markets, Bell has 40% DSL, phone market share vs cable 60% internet, phone and TV.
Bell, get a substantial TV market share before buying content. |
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cog_biz_useri ruin threads apparently
join:2011-04-19
Hamilton, ON | reply to grunze510
said by grunze510:So let's see. Bell is a phone company, an internet company, has 2 wireless phone companies (Bell Mobility / Solo Mobile, and Virgin Mobile Canada which they fully bought out 3 years ago), 2 TV distribution mediums (Bell Satellite TV and Bell Fibe TV (IPTV)), they own a pretty huge media company (Bell Media), 2 electronics store chains (The Bell Store, and The Source which they bought about a year or 2 ago), and they own Bell Aliant in the Maritimes.
I guess that wasn't enough for them. With the buyout of Astral Media, would they be the largest media company in Canada? if the government was smart, they would step in and bust up these mega-conglomerates... but oh wait, they pay off the crtc to look the other way... 
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