Broadband Tech > Filesharing Software > [Newsgroups] Newsgroups and DMCA Takedowns

Here's how I ended working my way through the take downs - I have an unlimited account from Newshosting, a block account from Blocknews, and a three-month, speed limited (10Mbps) $20 account from Astraweb. Generally speaking I can get most everything.

Just have Astra and XSUsenet and I have been getting everything I want. Don't have a block account but I guess I have been fortunate to not need one.

DMCA compliance is a regulatory requirement for the services to operate in the USA. Infringing content is required to be removed by the common carrier service provider after notice is given. Some of the providers seem to attract more notices than others, but all of the big usenet providers comply with DMCA notices. You could perhaps try a European provider who exclusively operates servers and its business in Europe but I suspect due to datacenter terms and conditions and similar laws in the EU you would find most if not all providers comply with notices once received.

I've been finding alot of older stuff is missing with astraweb. Astraweb seems to be slow in responding to DMCA notices. So anything posted recently on astraweb is ok, but alot of older posts have the issues.

All they really do is remove some of the posts so the file doesn't work. I think most usenet providers follow dmca notices now. Since they only take down parts of the file, get a fill server.

Most people download recent stuff anyways, but it'll come handy if you need to download something old. Blocknews is another block service if you use astraweb as your main provider.

I do something similar but I really don't have 100% confidence in my arrangement and I am looking for something better/simpler. Some users claim to be totally untouched by the DMCA and use only single providers. Who are they using? Do they have VIP access?

That would make sense. I couldn't see how a DMCA request would work so fast. Nonetheless its only GN users who are complaining about these missing files. One would think that the premium newsgroup provider would bend over backwards to ensure that important content remain on their servers as it remained on every other Usenet provider's, rather then cause tremendous grief amongst its users, motivating them to leave with at least two claiming they were sundering 5 year relationships with GN. What's amazing to me is that GN users, including myself at one point, would laugh at Astraweb users about their seeming incessant whining about incompletes encouraging them to get a real Usenet provider. Now its the GN users doing the whining and switching to Astraweb, which I may add never ended up working for me.

All the major releases associated with the nzbs I sent you (some 20,000 nzbs in total downloaded from Nzbmatrix alone) were deleted by GN within 3 days of the nzbs being released making a mockery of their claimed retention and causing even more users to abandon their service. These I assume were DMCA takedowns. Apparently GN's new motto is “If you snooze, you lose with Giganews”.

The big issue is the fact no provider will ever come out and say yeah we know we got copyrighted stuff on our severs and say we don't take it down. That is opening yourself up to be sued.

All you can do is look at user comments and see if they had an issue getting a show. HBO seems to be the one people have the most issues with. Exp I got game of thrones BR rip yesterday and some in the comments said they could not get it but I'm using Astraweb and it worked fine for me.

I've been a long time newshosting.com customer and recently there has been a lot of problems with countless posts of games give "430 no such article" errors. I was set to renew Wed but have chosen to cancel at this time and am looking into another provider. I'm leaning toward Astraweb at the moment.

Like mentioned before in this thread, Astra has problems with articles around the 300 days range. It isn't an DMCA issue. They had a problem awhile back with the server and still haven't fixed all the missing articles. If you have a free account with XSUsenet, it can fill in the missing articles for that date range fine since they have up to 600 days retention.

There a way around the DMCA Takedowns.