 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | reply to fifty nine
Re: It's the revenue said by fifty nine:Let's face it. $7/month internet TV subscriptions aren't going to pay for big dollar content. And doing a deal with Apple is like a supplier doing a deal with WalMart - Walmart gets the profit and the supplier gets the shaft. CBS depending on Apple for a fair deal is ludicrous. |
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 Subaru1-3-2-4Premium join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT | looks like they (Apple) thought the name would of sealed the deal hah |
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 | reply to Linklist said by Linklist:said by fifty nine:Let's face it. $7/month internet TV subscriptions aren't going to pay for big dollar content. And doing a deal with Apple is like a supplier doing a deal with WalMart - Walmart gets the profit and the supplier gets the shaft. CBS depending on Apple for a fair deal is ludicrous. It's just like how cable companies pay big bucks to keep ESPN and ESPN2 TV only.
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 | reply to Linklist I'm pretty sure if your statement had any truth at all, then Walmart would be without suppliers.
Simply based on your belief system, why would any company continue business if they can't make money, well the same holds true for Walmart suppliers. If they arent making the money they need, then they will either stop producing the product or they will take their business elsewhere (Im going with option 2 there). |
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 CheesePremium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL kudos:1 | Walmart is killing the small stores, who could they possibly take their business too? |
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 | reply to Skippy25 Walmart is the one that makes out in their stores. The suppliers make SHIT. A simple google search will show you that. Walmart does NOT care about the supplier and tells them how much they will pay for the shelf, how much WM will pay for the product (if at anything- Lay's only gets paid when WM sells a bag) and then yet WM has every right to put those on sale without Lay's approval and can even throw them away if they wish- Lay's takes the hit. NOT WM.
There is a Rolling Stones article from several years ago and it even says WM pays below TEN (10cents) for music CDs and then charges $15+ for them. The same as for anything else.
Not to mention you are REQUIRED to purchase your UPCs FROM Wal-Mart/Kroger's UPC company. |
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 jagged join:2003-07-01 Boynton Beach, FL | reply to AuraReturn ESPN gets $4+ from me per month whether or not I watch it. I wouldn't call that cable companies paying the channel owners |
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 | reply to Skippy25 said by Skippy25:I'm pretty sure if your statement had any truth at all, then Walmart would be without suppliers.
Simply based on your belief system, why would any company continue business if they can't make money, well the same holds true for Walmart suppliers. If they arent making the money they need, then they will either stop producing the product or they will take their business elsewhere (Im going with option 2 there). The walmart model makes perfect sense.
Netflix = Walmart
The suppliers get very little from walmart. |
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 | reply to 25139889 Ive watched the documentry and now how their system works.
They are cut throat without question, but my point still stands. Suppliers will not use Walmart if they can't make money and your "sale argument" is BS. Walmart purchases items from these people and then resells them. They can give them away if they want, but the supplier has already been paid so it is WM loss, not the product manufacturers.
Your music CD example is probably very wrong, but even if it wasnt, then the suppliers are still making money (enough to make them happy) or they wouldnt sell through Walmart. It is that plain and simple.
Regardless of what else you through at this, the bottom line still stands. ANYONE and EVERYONE that supplies to Walmart is getting an amount that is satisfying to them or they wouldnt be selling to Walmart. Any of you arguing any other way are talking out of your rears.
Walmart does 2 things I dont like, 1 they require businesses to have an established place in the town of their HQ and 2 because of their cut throat method they encourage companies to use off shore labor.
Did you know that products are made specifically for Walmart for that reason? So that 46" you bought at Walmart probably isnt the same quality build as the one selling at BestBuy for $50 or $150 more. This I know for a fact for when I was an electronic reseller my supplier was required to disclose Walmart sku's to me. |
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| reply to Skippy25 Can't believe I'm saying this, but NWOhio is right. Walmart does dictate the price, and you know what this causes? Outsourcing! Cutting corners! Lower quality!
In order to make money at the prices Walmart forces you to charge, you have to make huge cuts to push the cost to manufacture (+overhead) below the sale price. In manufacturing, you can cut labor or material costs. Lower material costs are obtained by getting lower quality materials. Lower labor costs are obtained by outsourcing.
Believe it or not, but Walmart is one of the biggest causes of outsourcing in the manufacturing sector. In order to survive, you have to outsource to make a profit on the Walmart dictated price.
Don't outsource, and one of your competitors will, undercutting your price, allowing the competitor to offer better prices to the retailers (more profit for them), and eventually you will have nowhere to sell your goods.
There's a reason the Walton family is one of the richest in the world. |
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 | reply to Skippy25 Apparently you don't realize that if you open up some small stores in the area Walmart will lower their prices as far as required in that area to undercut them out of business, the only stores that can survive this are the ones massive enough to actually hold a price war of their own like Kmart/Sears and Target and a few of the smaller grocery companies that can at least get people in by stocking allot more specialty items and regional goods that will draw people in.
Walmart isn't a store, it's an economic death machine. |
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