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 vaxvmsferroequine fanPremium
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Wormtown | reply to The Snowman
Re: Extent of illegal cellphone jamming is unclear When I get mine how do I disguise it so no one on the bus knows what it is? | | |
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 ashrc4Premium
join:2009-02-06
australia | said by vaxvms:When I get mine how do I disguise it so no one on the bus knows what it is?
Basically you can not.
Some of the FUD advertising suggests that even cell jammer detectors can be thrown by off by using PHS frequency jammer in conjuction but this is false.
"Jammer Detectors
Jammer detectors have been simply defined as countermeasures against blocking navigation and communication systems. These detectors can identify where jamming sources are located through radio frequencies in order to stop them from operating. Since jammers have been used for military purposes and by outlaws such as guerillas and terrorists, their detection is needed to bring back communication and navigation systems by destroying or turning off jammers. After all, communication and navigation are the essential factors towards security from a local to global scale.
In the United Kingdom, law enforcement authorities need jammer detector to catch not only automobile thieves and guerillas, but also traffic violators that have communication blocking devices. The common traffic violation committed in Britain is speeding, wherein violators drive their cars beyond the maximum speed rule and they tend to use blocking devices like a car GPS jammer to ensure their escape from pursuing British policemen. Outlaws like armed militants and terrorists can use mobile phone jammers to keep their criminal or terror operations in a low profile, wherein law enforcement officials can use advanced systems to track mobile phone communications. They also use jammers to disrupt communications on devices like television and computers, which can strike fear at the hearts of people who use them. Due to these jamming concerns, British authorities need to utilize detectors to track the jammers and shut them down. Companies like PDA Electronics have manufactured devices like the ECM189 GPS Jammer Detector to provide not only the British authorities but also civilians with jammer countermeasures.
Since these devices are available in the market and are operated with batteries, you can be assured that the detectors can stop any disruption. Jammer detectors are devices that signify the advancement of communications and keeping the lines open for the future."
Not providing link as it contains both detectors and jammers on page.
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ashrc4Premium
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australia
1 edit | said by ashrc4:said by vaxvms:When I get mine how do I disguise it so no one on the bus knows what it is?
Basically you can not. Some of the FUD advertising suggests that even cell jammer detectors can be thrown by off by using PHS frequency jammer in conjuction but this is false. speculation;
When a GPS tracking sytem on a bus "goes dark" and the authorities are aware (your guess is as good as mine here) you can bet that gps/cell snapshots or the area are able to pinpoint the to within a meter the culprit more often than not. Further more busses have CCTV.
Your only going to make the costs of governing rise for agency's responsible and crooks smarter.
The costs don't end there... think insurance, impact on bus train companys, cell providers and new infrastructure.
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ashrc4Premium
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australia | said by ashrc4:speculation;
When a GPS tracking sytem on a bus "goes dark" and the authorities are aware (your guess is as good as mine here) you can bet that gps/cell snapshots or the area are able to pinpoint the to within a meter the culprit more often than not. Further more busses have CCTV.
"At a GNSS conference in Portland, Oregon, last September, Phil Ward, president of Navward GPS Consulting in Dallas, Texas, proposed an elegant solution. Even low-power jammers could be detected, he suggested, if legislation was passed requiring smartphones, many of which now contain GPS receivers, to look out for jammers and warn other phones nearby if one is detected. The phones would then collectively determine the jammer’s location and report it."
»www.economist.com/node/18304246
One of a few idea's in the article but some others are already in place.
"In America there is already a military system to spot GPS interference: the GPS Jammer Detection and Location (JLOC) system run by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. According to Navsys, the company that developed JLOC, it involves a network of GPS receivers capable of detecting regions of higher than normal signal levels and low signal-to-noise ratios, either of which can indicate interference. But it is unknown how many sensors there are in the JLOC system, or how accurately it can determine the location of a jammer."
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1 edit | said by ashrc4:said by ashrc4:speculation;
When a GPS tracking sytem on a bus "goes dark" and the authorities are aware (your guess is as good as mine here) you can bet that gps/cell snapshots or the area are able to pinpoint the to within a meter the culprit more often than not. Further more busses have CCTV.
"At a GNSS conference in Portland, Oregon, last September, Phil Ward, president of Navward GPS Consulting in Dallas, Texas, proposed an elegant solution. Even low-power jammers could be detected, he suggested, if legislation was passed requiring smartphones, many of which now contain GPS receivers, to look out for jammers and warn other phones nearby if one is detected. The phones would then collectively determine the jammer’s location and report it." » www.economist.com/node/18304246One of a few idea's in the article but some others are already in place. Absolutely! Then, instead of millions of citizens merely reporting their own real-time position, and real-time movements to at least one privacy/rights oriented mom-and-pop sized corporate good citizen (their carrier, most of whom of course really are sooo concerned with abiding by the Law/Constitution/Bill of Rights, perhaps their ISP, perhaps MS, Apple....), and whom ever they wind up sharing this history with, as well as what ever governmental agencies may be more directly monitoring, turn those same citizens into roving informants on other citizens.
Why stop at just cell jammers. Certainly these "phones" can do more than just report in on that activity. If we just put our minds to it, I'm sure we can come up with a myriad of other suspect activity on the part of the others around us, that we would all be grossly negligent, and even Traitor-like, in failing to facilitate the reporting, storing (for ever), and mining of, all for the good of the economy, national security, God, King, Queen, and Country....
And why tie up scarce on-the-ground resources capturing the offenders, when there WILL BE drones available to handle the situation, in any way the Executive/"DOJ"/CIA sees fit.
Criminal use has already been mentioned here, as has the all purpose, meaningless term "Terrorist", and that is all one has to utter to justify ANYTHING here, now (Today, March 12, 2012, Day 12).
Think it's a ridiculous leap? It _was_, not very long ago at all, but it is no longer, as history has proven.
While one can debate the real risks and possible benefits of the jamming activity itself, even the acceptance of this positional reporting during our daily/nightly existence has gone way too far, (mostly in the name of "Give Me Convenience, Or Give Me Death" h/t J.Biafra). So it goes... | |
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