 TrimlinePremium
join:2004-10-24
Windermere, FL
 ·Callcentric
| [Equipment] For Those Looking for an Atom Based PC For Asterisk I use the Lenovo Q100's series for my asterisk system. Lenovo has the newer Q180's on sale for a few days. I just ordered another one - see the specs. These are extremely quiet, and can be had at a very good price.
»shop.lenovo.com/us/desktops/idea···ies/q180 |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
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·voip.ms
| Re: [Equipment] For Those Looking for an Atom Based PC For Aster A new PIAF 2 release came out recently, and they are (for the first time I can remember) advocating a "homebrew" PC. This setup is around $200-250.
»nerdvittles.com/?p=810
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 ajhajiPremium
join:2002-03-02
North York, ON | reply to Trimline
I bought a barebones ZOTAC box for my last Asterisk build. Put in some RAM and a cheap SSD and the total was under $300 plus tax. |
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TrimlinePremium
join:2004-10-24
Windermere, FL Reviews:
·Callcentric
| said by ajhaji:I bought a barebones ZOTAC box for my last Asterisk build. Put in some RAM and a cheap SSD and the total was under $300 plus tax.
I saw that as well, but had difficulty determining what parts I needed. It was all very intriguing. When I found the Q180's had pretty much everything, I pressed the buy button. No fuss, no muss.
They work well as an HTPC too... 
I am an equipment junkie. Let me know the stats on your ZOTAC. |
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 mgraves1Premium
join:2004-04-05
Houston, TX
·Junction Networks
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Just a few days ago I posted something related this regarding hp thin clients.
»www.mgraves.org/2012/03/hp-thin-···n-hosts/
These can be had with Atom or Via cpus for under $200 ready to roll.
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Houston TX
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gweidenh
join:2002-05-18
Houston, TX
kudos:1 | enjoying the inflight wifi? |
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TrimlinePremium
join:2004-10-24
Windermere, FL Reviews:
·Callcentric
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Excellent prices, I just may order one on Monday as a test box. I've always had extremely good results with HP products. Small and quiet is a must for me, seen and not heard is my motto.
Thanks for the info. |
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| Almost makes me sorry I picked up a T23 for $100, but I saved a few bucks, have a built in "UPS" and a screen for initial install. Still, it's a used machine from way back when (P3 1.2/1GB/20GB). Those thin clients really are the way to go if you're rolling out new stuff and reliability's the key.
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This is an alternative option. I like dealing with this company, quick turnaround, competitive pricing, quality products:
»www.mini-box.com/M350-enclosure-···-adapter
»www.mini-box.com/Intel-D2500CCE-···herboard
Just add 2G of memory and a SSD and you are done. |
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mgraves1Premium
join:2004-04-05
Houston, TX Reviews:
·Junction Networks
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said by gweidenh:enjoying the inflight wifi?
Nah, that was done on my G2 while at IAH. Pity the Galaxy Nexus I ordered didn't deliver in time to come along to the UK. |
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ajhajiPremium
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North York, ON Reviews:
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said by Trimline:I am an equipment junkie. Let me know the stats on your ZOTAC.
I got the ZOTAC ID12-U barebone, which is an Atom D525 (dual-core 1.8 GHz). Popped in 2 GB of DDR3 RAM, a 40 GB Intel SSD, and you're done. It's a great little box. Quite quiet. The only thing that isn't so nice is that the HDMI port only supports resolutions up to 720p. So this wouldn't be a good choice for an HTPC. |
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| said by ajhaji:said by Trimline:I am an equipment junkie. Let me know the stats on your ZOTAC.
I got the ZOTAC ID12-U barebone, which is an Atom D525 (dual-core 1.8 GHz). Popped in 2 GB of DDR3 RAM, a 40 GB Intel SSD, and you're done. It's a great little box. Quite quiet. The only thing that isn't so nice is that the HDMI port only supports resolutions up to 720p. So this wouldn't be a good choice for an HTPC. The thin clients suggested by Mike are more than good enough for the application but cheaper than the Zotacs by a large margin. With that being said, I use on of those little ATOM boxes (an Acer Aspire REVO 3610) as my main media player (Linux + XBMC).
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gweidenh
join:2002-05-18
Houston, TX
kudos:1 | reply to ajhaji
For HTPC applications, you will need a model with the Nvidia ION chipset or similar GPU.
With that config, the lil Zotac box can spit out 1080p |
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| said by gweidenh:For HTPC applications, you will need a model with the Nvidia ION chipset or similar GPU.
With that config, the lil Zotac box can spit out 1080p
NVidia ION is a great chipset for HD video playback. Might be a bit of an overkill for an * box 
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
kudos:1 | reply to FiReSTaRT
said by FiReSTaRT:With that being said, I use on of those little ATOM boxes (an Acer Aspire REVO 3610) as my main media player (Linux + XBMC). I don't know how much you had spent your $$$ on the hardware to do XBMC. However, I believe one can achieve the same (and may be better) for as little as $25 with a RaspBerryPi (NOT RaspBerryPie).
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gweidenh
join:2002-05-18
Houston, TX
kudos:1 | As much as a love the RasBerry Pi, lets be honest.
1) It has yet to ship
2) Has no US distribution
3) Does not come with a power supply, or USB network dongle, USB harddrive, or USB hub or many other necessary items to make this a working HTPC system (read: its not really $25)
4) Does not have a GPU that really can come close to anything the Atom/Ion combo delivers. |
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Anyone know what the real-world power footprint looks like running PiaF 2 on one of these thin clients such as the HP T5565? Its power supply is rated at 65w but will it actually use that much?
For us, it's a consideration since there is the question of whether the added PBX versatility/utility is worth the roughly extra $80-90 per year in electricity going forward in our SOHO setup. I'm aware of PlugPBX alternatives, but the relative ease of installation and power of a PiaF installation sounds much more appealing since I'm inexperienced in both Linux and Asterisk.
The main goal is GV integration with new IP phones so maybe something like $35/year SIPSorcery plan or using an Obi110 as a proxy might be more cost effective. Dunno. |
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TrimlinePremium
join:2004-10-24
Windermere, FL Reviews:
·Callcentric
1 edit | said by borntochill:Anyone know what the real-world power footprint looks like running PiaF 2 on one of these thin clients such as the HP T5565? Its power supply is rated at 65w but will it actually use that much? For us, it's a consideration since there is the question of whether the added PBX versatility/utility is worth the roughly extra $80-90 per year in electricity going forward in our SOHO setup. I'm aware of PlugPBX alternatives, but the relative ease of installation and power of a PiaF installation sounds much more appealing since I'm inexperienced in both Linux and Asterisk. The main goal is GV integration with new IP phones so maybe something like $35/year SIPSorcery plan or using an Obi110 as a proxy might be more cost effective. Dunno. On the Q180, and I'm sure most of the related siblings, the power is quoted as:
Save Energy—and Money.
Power consumption for most tasks is only 20W, making the Q180 exceptionally energy efficient. Indeed, it uses 80 percent less energy than a traditional desktop, helping the environment and keeping your electricity bills low.
»shop.lenovo.com/us/itemdetails/3···CC8A1ACC
Running these small foot prints on Linux would not consume as much monthly $$ as a hosted service. I'm not sure what a few ATA's consume, but I'm going to guess it would be about the same, or less, as hosting your own small server. Certainly not $80-$90 per year.
Edit: Added my own annual costs for electricity:
20 Watts × 24 hours/day × 365 days/year) ÷ 1000
= 48 kWh × 14.5 cents/kWh
= $6.96/year ÷ 12
= .58 per month |
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said by mazilo:said by FiReSTaRT:With that being said, I use on of those little ATOM boxes (an Acer Aspire REVO 3610) as my main media player (Linux + XBMC). I don't know how much you had spent your $$$ on the hardware to do XBMC. However, I believe one can achieve the same (and may be better) for as little as $25 with a RaspBerryPi (NOT RaspBerryPie). About $200 shipped, without an OS (not that I needed one) at the time when RaspberryPi wasn't even on the horizon. Not sure how good it is at decoding compressed hidef video, but who knows.. The REVO has been serving me well since 09
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mgraves1Premium
join:2004-04-05
Houston, TX Reviews:
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said by borntochill:Anyone know what the real-world power footprint looks like running PiaF 2 on one of these thin clients such as the HP T5565? Its power supply is rated at 65w but will it actually use that much?
I've used T5700 series for several years and in various capacities. The models that I have were recycled. That is, they were being sent to Dell to be recycled by a major broadcaster. A friend saw the box and held it for me. Since they pay Dell to recycle that sort of thing it was as win-win.
Mine are older so Transmeta Crusoe CPUs, but my kilawatt meter proves to me that they don't ever draw more than 11 watts. That even after I installed a laptop hard drive and a second NIC in an expansion chasis.
Since I live in hurricane alley I'm very concerned about power draw on UPS/generator. These thin clients are in fact the smallest power draw in my entire arsenal of technology.
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