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dave
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reply to tcg

Re: Technet subscription question

Probably because of people misusing the technet licence to populate their home network


tcg
Premium
join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX

Most likely.



trparky
Apple... YUM
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join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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I have ten keys each for Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate.



Nightfall
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reply to dave

said by dave:

Probably because of people misusing the technet licence to populate their home network

Its more like people selling the keys to their friends or giving them out to family. In my household, its impossible for me to use all the keys I was given. In a testing environment, 10 keys is way overkill.
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tcg
Premium
join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX

I guess that would depend on what you're testing. Since most MS products can be used nowadays for 30 days (really 120+) without a key, one could argue that 3 keys is "way overkill". But, it would still just be an opinion.



Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
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Birmingham, AL
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reply to Nightfall

said by Nightfall:

said by dave:

Probably because of people misusing the technet licence to populate their home network

Its more like people selling the keys to their friends or giving them out to family. In my household, its impossible for me to use all the keys I was given. In a testing environment, 10 keys is way overkill.

Not only to their freinds or co workers, they also open up web stores where they sell technet keys for $15-$30 per key.


tcg
Premium
join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX

I can't say that people don't sell their keys, but considering that MS can tell exactly where the key came from, they must be beyond stupid.



Nightfall
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said by tcg:

I can't say that people don't sell their keys, but considering that MS can tell exactly where the key came from, they must be beyond stupid.

I don't think its a matter of knowing where the keys came from. These keys are full license keys with no expiration. The only thing stupid are the people who buy these keys. There is nothing preventing me from reregistering the key after it has been sold and burning the person who bought it.
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tcg
Premium
join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX

No, they're retail keys with no license for general use. The use of the key would raise no flags. But the sale of, in a setting such as a website, would.


dave
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reply to Nightfall

These keys are full license keys with no expiration.

The 'N' keys are for one user only, so if I sell/give/whatever you a key, I'm in violation. And if you do something stupid with that key, I'm potentially in trouble.

Is it technically feasible to catch me? I don't know.
Is it likely someone will bother to come after me? Probably not.
Can they invalidate my keys? Maybe, maybe not.

Still, if you're intent on reselling Technet keys to make money, you'd probably register the subscription in a fake name in the first place.

»technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subs···422.aspx


Nightfall
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said by dave:

These keys are full license keys with no expiration.

The 'N' keys are for one user only, so if I sell/give/whatever you a key, I'm in violation. And if you do something stupid with that key, I'm potentially in trouble.

Is it technically feasible to catch me? I don't know.
Is it likely someone will bother to come after me? Probably not.
Can they invalidate my keys? Maybe, maybe not.

Still, if you're intent on reselling Technet keys to make money, you'd probably register the subscription in a fake name in the first place.

»technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subs···422.aspx

I never said it wasn't against the rules. I would never sell my keys as I am greedy.

That being said, there are a mix of N keys and full license keys. For example, in my Technet...

Windows 7 Home Premium and Home Premium K
Windows 7 Home Premium N and KN

These are full license keys though. As long as only one household is using them, Microsoft isn't going to care.
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tcg
Premium
join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX

reply to dave
All Technet keys are licensed for one user only - the subscriber.

But even if you subscribe with a fake name to resell the keys, you've got to pay for the subscription somehow.



dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4

said by tcg:

All Technet keys are licensed for one user only - the subscriber.

But even if you subscribe with a fake name to resell the keys, you've got to pay for the subscription somehow.

Prepaid credit card?


tcg
Premium
join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX

said by dvd536:

said by tcg:

All Technet keys are licensed for one user only - the subscriber.

But even if you subscribe with a fake name to resell the keys, you've got to pay for the subscription somehow.

Prepaid credit card?

Spoken like a true perp. LOL.

IamGimli

join:2004-02-28
Canada
kudos:1

reply to dave

said by dave:

The 'N' keys are for one user only, so if I sell/give/whatever you a key, I'm in violation. And if you do something stupid with that key, I'm potentially in trouble.

"K", "N" and "KN" have nothing whatsoever to do with licensing. "K" is the regular version of the OS, "N" and "KN" are localised versions that do not include Windows Media Player so Microsoft can comply with some countries anti-trust rulings.

As tcg mentioned, ALL Technet license keys are licensed ONLY for the Technet subscriber's use in non-operational environments.

dave
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8

Did I say that? Hold on, I must have screwed up.

EDIT: I sure did say that, but I equally surely didn't intend it. Maybe I meant 'MSDN' and my fingers did something different.

I vaguely recall typing 'license' and then going back to turn it to 'key' for accuracy, so maybe I fouled up that edit and didn't check.

Anyway, you are of course correct.


IamGimli

join:2004-02-28
Canada
kudos:1

Haha, it's all good!

Just wanted to make sure nobody got the wrong impression


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