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Re: What usenet service everyone using now? said by bryn987:So, which service does not comply with DMCA notices? Been using usenet for a while and while they had perfect service, I've started having issues with items being taken down. So I switched to Astraweb last weekend and they are terrible; very horrible speeds.
Also consider a backup to your next main provider to cover any incompletes as well. I use usenetnow for my main source and a block account from astraweb for any missing bits. Between the two of them I can get just about anything I want. |
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| reply to nfixit2004
I still use the free usenet service. In over a decade of using binary newsgroups I've never paid for access, and I never will. |
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decxPremium
join:2002-06-07
Vancouver, BC | Well it depends on how you use it and what your needs are. If you get what you want quickly when it gets posted then you don't need a paid service. However if you find yourself searching and getting stuff that was posted months ago then you definitely need to get paid access. Long retention rarely comes free. |
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| said by decx:Long retention rarely comes free.
~24 months retention is sufficient for me. |
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| reply to nfixit2004
I would avoid Highwinds
»Highwinds throttle?
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decxPremium
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Vancouver, BC | reply to nfixit2004
It isn't a Highwinds issue, but rather an issue specific to certain Highwinds resellers. |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | reply to habskilla
not to mention HW censoring content. |
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 kingdome74Emotionally UnavailablePremium
join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
kudos:2 | It's getting tough to find a server that doesn't. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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said by dvd536:not to mention HW censoring content. How the hell do they censor content?
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 swintecPremium,VIP
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| said by elwoodblues:said by dvd536:not to mention HW censoring content. How the hell do they censor content? They removed entire groups because just the group name sounded bad.
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 sfl0w
join:2010-07-20
Birmingham, AL | said by swintec:They removed entire groups because just the group name sounded bad.
Easynews,Newshosting and UsenetServer are among many other responsible providers who have opted to be members of the Internet Watch Foundation - the IWF's purpose is to remove criminal content, primarily newsgroups that harbor child porn, from the Usenet. Anyone who really cares about the Usenet and loves it for what it is knows that there is no place for that kind of garbage anywhere. Before @swintec attacks other providers for censorship, it ought to known for anyone who is interested that Blocknews and UsenetNow both take no responsibility and openly support newsgroups that knowingly contain and are only online to spread child pornography.
Any decent provider filters child porn. |
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swintecPremium,VIP
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| said by sfl0w:Easynews,Newshosting and UsenetServer are among many other responsible providers who have opted to be members of the Internet Watch Foundation - the IWF's purpose is to remove criminal content, primarily newsgroups that harbor child porn, from the Usenet. Anyone who really cares about the Usenet and loves it for what it is knows that there is no place for that kind of garbage anywhere. Before @swintec attacks other providers for censorship, it ought to known for anyone who is interested that Blocknews and UsenetNow both take no responsibility and openly support newsgroups that knowingly contain and are only online to spread child pornography.
Any decent provider filters child porn.
Except, as you know, because you say the same every time this comes up and I respond, a group name tends to not have anything to do with group content. Nothing was accomplished by simply removing groups with bad NAMES because it will simply push CP users to use one of the other thousands of obscure, no traffic groups for their activities, thus making it more difficult to find, track and catch the individuals involved.
Removing groups based on names was nothing other than a feel good move for each of the parties involved back then.
I have posted it before, but here is one of the write ups done on it several years ago: »www.privacylover.com/child-porno···ld-porn/ The author doesn't know or just doesnt distinguish between resellers though...but it appears at least at the time, Giganews, Highwinds and Astraweb all obliged in one form or another. Although i wonder if you requested one of the more obscure group names to be added back if it would be.
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said by sfl0w:said by swintec:They removed entire groups because just the group name sounded bad.
Easynews,Newshosting and UsenetServer are among many other responsible providers who have opted to be members of the Internet Watch Foundation - the IWF's purpose is to remove criminal content, primarily newsgroups that harbor child porn, from the Usenet. Anyone who really cares about the Usenet and loves it for what it is knows that there is no place for that kind of garbage anywhere. Before @swintec attacks other providers for censorship, it ought to known for anyone who is interested that Blocknews and UsenetNow both take no responsibility and openly support newsgroups that knowingly contain and are only online to spread child pornography. Any decent provider filters child porn. Censorship is a waste of time.. in any form!  As is prejudice..  |
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sfl0w
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Birmingham, AL | reply to swintec
@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their going to do it anyway...
not a very good attitude if you ask me...just sayin |
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swintecPremium,VIP
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| said by sfl0w:@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their going to do it anyway...
You seem to be being deliberately obtuse to the whole situation. Group NAME does not equal group CONTENT.
The groups chosen to be removed were chosen because the names sounded bad and I think it was also around the time that politician in NY was trying to get elected and managed to get TW and Comcast to discontinue providing usenet access to their end users as well.
Everybody felt better after because they think they put a dent in CP. Thinking logically though, CP traders didnt just give up their addiction / illness, they simply moved to other obscure groups...I would be surprised if they were even using the removed groups to begin with.
Don't you think if the groups "sole purpose is to spread child pornography..." were actually true, law enforcement would want them accessible? It would be like shooting fish in a barrel for them. They simply drove it further underground. I guess if it isnt seen though, it isnt happening right? 
Will you sing the same tune when the recording industries realize they can pay a politician off and get a.b.dvdr removed or a.b.hdtv because the mere name MIGHT insinuate copyright infringement? Wonder how easy everyone will bend for that request.
Absolutely no reason to go after group names, you go after posters if there is an issue with posts.
Your drug dealer analogy is a stupid one and proves my point. Close off access and police one corner, drug dealers will go to a different corner. Secure that one and they will go to the alley or park. you need to take out the dealer directly.
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Before @swintec attacks other providers for censorship, it ought to known for anyone who is interested that Blocknews and UsenetNow both take no responsibility and openly support newsgroups that knowingly contain and are only online to spread child pornography.
Wow, way to take this thread off the rails. But if you are going to point fingers at anyone you might as well do it at Readnews since that is what usenetnow and blocknews resell.
Also take your pitchfork and torches and go raise bloody hell with Ngroups.net since they are a Readnews reseller as well.
If you are going to tar and feather people you might as well get all of them. |
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said by sfl0w:@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their(sic) going to do it anyway...
not a very good attitude if you ask me...just sayin
Hi.
You just bought your first computer and you're new to the internet. Welcome and hope you enjoy your new toy.
There is much to learn, as evident from your posting here. |
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kalonePremium
join:2002-07-02
Lexington, KY | said by Mister M:said by sfl0w:@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their(sic) going to do it anyway...
not a very good attitude if you ask me...just sayin
Hi. You just bought your first computer and you're new to the internet. Welcome and hope you enjoy your new toy. There is much to learn, as evident from your posting here. Not new. Been around for years promoting Highwinds. |
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sfl0w
join:2010-07-20
Birmingham, AL | reply to swintec
said by swintec:said by sfl0w:@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their going to do it anyway...
You seem to be being deliberately obtuse to the whole situation. Group NAME does not equal group CONTENT. The implication that these groups were just removed without anyone actually examining the content inside is completely ridiculous. Surely no one is stupid enough to buy into that sack of bull, there are to many folks at IWF and to many members do you honestly think that an organization whose mission is to eliminate criminal content is not actually going to go after the content? Don't know what planet your living on, but that just isn't the case and doesn't make any sense at all - but of course I guess you can keep telling people that the group name has nothing to do with content...hey everybody @swintec says we won't find anymore nude pics in the playboy groups(they are really filled with comic book art..)... ridiculousness |
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said by kalone:Not new. Been around for years promoting Highwinds.
Does anyone know how much they pay him? Highwinds is about the worst.
It's a ridiculous argument that eliminating group names stops content from being posted. Let's assume that people who post highly illegal and/or confidential stuff would do it in a way that can't easily be traced (ordinary usenet posts are highly traceable) or even noticed by casual observers, methods such as using multihop anonymous remailers (many only post to text groups) in groups such as alt.anonymous.messages.
One reason why most newsgroup providers don't want to sensor is that they know it's a slippery slope. Whenever torrent sites like Mininova were on trial, the prosecution would always drive in the point about how they could police the site for pornographic content but not copyrighted content. So the act of being a good citizen is used against them. This is also probably why the millions of harmful viruses that get posted get ignored by NSPs, as it's safer to do nothing than have to answer for partial enforcement. |
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