 sortofageekNot TroublePremium,Mod
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Re: [Caps] Please sign the petition to raise or eliminate the ca Well, we know here and we care and never see the usage go more than half the cap, generally less than that. We consider ourselves rather heavy users, too. ~shrug~
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to sortofageek
Re: [Caps] Please sign the petition to raise or eliminate the ca said by sortofageek:Well, we know here and we care and never see the usage go more than half the cap, generally less than that. We consider ourselves rather heavy users, too. ~shrug~
And I'd bet that many here have higher data usage for it
though might not be watching 100+ eps of a show in a month |
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Re: [Caps] Please sign the petition to raise or eliminate the ca Some people need to be educated on what SD and HD means and how to get it.
Reminds me of a local hotel I toured recently for their open house. They were touting HDTV channels but when I asked and saw was those big box SD TV's. |
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 nerdburgPremium
join:2009-08-20
Schuylkill Haven, PA
kudos:1 | reply to rody_44
said by rody_44:Maximise, Minimize, Im just triong to figure out why.... ive heard the cap was based on protecting video?
According to Nielsen the average American watched TV for 35 hours and 34 minutes a week in 2010. That works out to 141.36 hours a month. Or about 140 GB of data. If it was in HD content, it would be about 280 GB. And that is just 1 individual. The average American family watches about 45 hours and 15 minutes a week. That works out to about 181 hours a month. So even if they just watched half of that content in HD (the majority of US households have an HD TV), they would be over the cap. And that isn't even considering their normal internet usage.
This is why some people feel the caps are aimed at protecting the company's TV/video/pay per-view interests. |
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 CableToolPoorly Representing MYSELF.Premium
join:2004-11-12 | said by nerdburg:said by rody_44:Maximise, Minimize, Im just triong to figure out why.... ive heard the cap was based on protecting video?
According to Nielsen the average American watched TV for 35 hours and 34 minutes a week in 2010. That works out to 141.36 hours a month. Or about 140 GB of data. If it was in HD content, it would be about 280 GB. And that is just 1 individual. The average American family watches about 45 hours and 15 minutes a week. That works out to about 181 hours a month. So even if they just watched half of that content in HD (the majority of US households have an HD TV), they would be over the cap. And that isn't even considering their normal internet usage. This is why some people feel the caps are aimed at protecting the company's TV/video/pay per-view interests. The only report that would make those facts relevant is if the average american family was able to stream 100% of what they enjoyed as a family. And what % of those families would even be bothered to invest in the technology and skill to do so.
Unlike most 15 year old kids.. people dont generally gather around the computer monitor to watch TV. And yes, Im aware your TV can be your monitor.. and you can create a home media server.. etc.
Most families wont be bothered however.
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | They could just buy a roku for each TV
or put an Xbox 360 on a tv or 2
then have a wireless router
and bam you have multiple tv's ready to stream nexflix/hulu/etc
so $50 per TV and 50-100 for a router and then some more for an internet connection and they're there |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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| Ok, so you save money by not subscribing to CATV (or at least not premium packages) but you have the added expense of a player/media server/ roku/Xbox, plus the added expense of online providers like hulu+, netflix, amazon, etc., but you balk at the thought of the very modest extra cost of additonal bandwidth?
At least ComCast allows you that choice.. a set prepaid charge for UNLIMITED (so far) extra useage with NO overage, NO suprise megabills, NO sudden disconnects.
This part of internet useage i.e. entertainment is a luxury product and luxurys aren't free, or cheap, in many cases not even reasonably priced.
the complaints that your poor family is FORCED over the known limit or FORCED to pay more so you can use more get little sympathy from me. |
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CableToolPoorly Representing MYSELF.Premium
join:2004-11-12 | reply to DarkLogix
And I would have the same functionality I have now? My kids could go to NickJr and Sprout and watch their shows? My wife can go to OWN and watch Rosie at 6pm like she loves to?
ALL THROUGH XBOX OR ROKU!!!
No.
And all I would need to do is rewire my entire house and swap out the cable boxes for ROKU boxes or XBOXES and teach everyone how to use them and wire them all through a router?!!
In the real world- That just wouldnt fly in most families.
Look- No one is saying it cant be done? No one is saying no one does it?
Its just not the norm, not the majority and not an issue for over 99% of the subscribers.
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This is what you will begin seeing in the Comcast forums once you get your wish, the cap is eliminated, and UBB is implemented:
»[Burloak] Usage Based Billing Nightmare |
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to tshirt
I think you missed the point
someone might have a roku and use it to suplement their TV service (ever hear of HBOgo?)
and no re-wiring would be needed all roku's have wifi
personally I have BCI via comcast and TV service via DTV (comcast TV service in my area is crap) and I have a roku and an Xbox)
my mention of the Roku was in responce to the foolish claim that a family would be gathered around a computer screen
in the real world families already have Roku's and Xboxes and most kids know how to use them
there is no normal it just doesn't exist
and if netflix hadn't set the default to low quality then way more people would be over the cap |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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said by nerdburg:....According to Nielsen the average American watched TV for 35 hours and 34 minutes a week in 2010......This is why some people feel the caps are aimed at protecting the company's TV/video/pay per-view interests.
And why wouldn't they be? (As I said above they are protecting a known/predictable revenue stream, currently video, but it may not always specifically video.
Comcast, other Cable providers, and all their mom and pop predecessors (most cable systems started as a bunch of very small providers) have spent many billions of dollars over the last 40+ years to build the industry and services available today. not that they've reached a point that they can reliably take a modest profit (around 10%) they are constantly attacked as robber barons for any increase in pricing or addtional fees for their most popular services.
If you don't like what they offer, QUIT buying it! |
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CableToolPoorly Representing MYSELF.Premium
join:2004-11-12 | reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:my mention of the Roku was in responce to the foolish claim that a family would be gathered around a computer screen
in the real world families already have Roku's and Xboxes and most kids know how to use them
there is no normal it just doesn't exist
and if netflix hadn't set the default to low quality then way more people would be over the cap
Ive been in MANY MANY MANY wired homes. In fairness during work and cable related but I can speak to what I see as far as what is wired and how. What the capability of a family is and what they would be willing to do.
That just aint it.
I know people have ROKU and stream through XBOX, Hell, I stream Netflix through XBOX, IPOD and KINDLE.. But again, not for 8 hours straight, not on all at once all day.. heck, not even everyday.
There is "normal". Its average.
This small microcosm of tech minded forum members is NOT a slice of Americana and what one would expect to find or make up a subscriber base.
Tell me with certainty what the percentage of subscribers is that go over or are even CLOSE to the cap? The number isnt even worth the time spent in this thread.
The argument to that is "Oh.. if they KNEW they could stream HIGHER QUALITY then they would ALL be over the cap!!!" Its really reaching at straws to justify a point.. that doesnt really exist.
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| said by CableTool:The argument to that is "Oh.. if they KNEW they could stream HIGHER QUALITY then they would ALL be over the cap!!!" Its really reaching at straws to justify a point.. that doesnt really exist.
Ok...can you check on your netflix account if that toggle is set to good or best quality?
by default, netflix set it to good, toggle it to best, log out from your netflix account on all your devices, log back in and then monitor your usage.
just try it...let's see how it goes... |
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CableToolPoorly Representing MYSELF.Premium
join:2004-11-12 | I actually will but Ive got to get out of this thread. Its a big circle of nothing.
THE INTERNET SHOULD BE FREE!!!
/Drops Mic
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nerdburgPremium
join:2009-08-20
Schuylkill Haven, PA
kudos:1 | reply to nerdburg
Guys, again I'm not saying that it's "normal" or even average for ppl to stream all of their TV needs. I'm just saying that if you were an average American, you would have a hard time cutting the cord without hitting the data cap. This is why ppl are suspicious of Comcast's motives.
And FWIW my family cut the cord a couple of years ago - we are perfectly happy with a wireless Roku box in the kitchen and the PS3 on the main TV. No crazy house rewiring required. |
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| said by nerdburg 
And FWIW my family cut the cord a couple of years ago - we are perfectly happy with a wireless Roku box in the kitchen and the PS3 on the main TV. No crazy house rewiring required.
I've got 2 Dell's acting as an HTPC connected to 2 LCD's, Xbox, Wii & Blu-ray, Kid's pc, tablet and an iphone that can stream with no re-wiring required...
and even if you re-wire it today to be at par with the latest technology, it shouldn't cost that much and should be paid in less than a year. cat5e and rg6 cables are cheap nowadays.
some people are just too cozy / comfortable with what they have and don't want to be bothered much more... |
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