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jcondon8

join:2000-05-27
Fishkill, NY

reply to momcat1

Re: Optimum App for Laptop

Thanks for the heads up I will have to try it tonight.

chunk73
Premium
join:2002-02-22
Fairfield, CT

reply to cvteck

said by cvteck :

said by CTMustang:

now, how do we get around the no external monitor? I want to use this on desktops

You don't. It's called Optimum App for Laptops for a reason. Enjoy yet another free feature of Optimum.

Ok, this makes no sense at all. The fact that they named this app "optimum app for laptop" implies that it is meant to only be used while on the go, where you cant access your main TV's. However they lock down the app so that it can only be used when connected to your home network. I have a laptop at home in a docking station with an external monitor. I am technically running the app on my laptop but I cant watch it on the external monitor? Does this sound fishy to anyone else? Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Think new pc's, hdmi ports on new pc's, 60" lcd with hdmi input. Put all that together and what do you get???? You get a PC that is turned into a STB with no additional monthly fee for cablevision.

You think cablevision would allow you to use this app to output to a TV without collecting a monthly fee? No way in hell. The only way I see this app ever changing so that external monitors are allowed is when cablevision figures out how to bill it as an additional STB.


momcat1
No Relation To The Bobcat

join:2002-10-21
Wappingers Falls, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

said by chunk73:

The only way I see this app ever changing so that external monitors are allowed is when cablevision figures out how to bill it as an additional STB.

And the minute they figure that out, I stop using the app. I refuse to pay for that functionality.

IMO, by locking it down to your home connection, they are defeating the purpose. Did they think that sitting with my laptop to watch TV, in my home, where there's already a TV with a STB in the living room AND the bedroom, is useful? I'dd rather watch the TV. Screen is bigger and the sound system is better, too.

juicem2

join:2006-03-05
Mastic Beach, NY

reply to chunk73
I'm not complaining. It is free and can come in handy. My daughter does not have a tv in her room. Now, she can take the laptop in her room or wherever in the house to watch tv and it doesn't cost a cent. It is a win win situation. People need to stop complaining. I don't think many other cablecos or telcos offer this feature.


CTMustang
Premium
join:2007-09-10
France

said by juicem2:

I'm not complaining. It is free and can come in handy. My daughter does not have a tv in her room. Now, she can take the laptop in her room or wherever in the house to watch tv and it doesn't cost a cent. It is a win win situation. People need to stop complaining. I don't think many other cablecos or telcos offer this feature.

My sister uses it in her room too.... at my parents house. I'd just love to be able to hook it up to her 32 inch tv and not have to pay for the shitty cablevision box, not to mention I don't want to have to run coax into her room.

As with everything technology, I'm sure it could be figured out....I see one way is to get an iMac......... wonder what the mac does differently as that's not cost effective for me. I am swimming in P4 dell desktops though.

ShockTech

join:2002-12-11

reply to pa prowler

said by momcat1:

said by chunk73:

The only way I see this app ever changing so that external monitors are allowed is when cablevision figures out how to bill it as an additional STB.

And the minute they figure that out, I stop using the app. I refuse to pay for that functionality.

IMO, by locking it down to your home connection, they are defeating the purpose. Did they think that sitting with my laptop to watch TV, in my home, where there's already a TV with a STB in the living room AND the bedroom, is useful? I'dd rather watch the TV. Screen is bigger and the sound system is better, too.

No one is forcing you to use the app. I can't help but notice 95% of the time you post here it involves you crying about something you either don't pay for at all or the issue is so minuscule that I get the feeling you take joy in making these posts.

Anywho...

The reason the app is restricted to in home use is because the Cablevision contract with content providers permits them to transmit the same content to as many STBs as the customer has within the home without charging more (minus the obvious monthly charge of the actual STB.) Cablevision was able to win their lawsuits by arguing that iPads/iPhones can be considered a STB as long as it was only being used in the home. Thus the reason why all the Optimum Apps are provided at no additional charge to customers. Could the app technically allow you to connect to the Cablevision network and watch all of the live content anywhere you had an internet connection? Sure...but then they would be in violation of their existing contracts and then the content providers would pull their feed like Scripps did a while back. And god only knows the posts you would make if that happened again..


cvtv

@charter.com

said by ShockTech:

said by momcat1:

said by chunk73:

The only way I see this app ever changing so that external monitors are allowed is when cablevision figures out how to bill it as an additional STB.

And the minute they figure that out, I stop using the app. I refuse to pay for that functionality.

IMO, by locking it down to your home connection, they are defeating the purpose. Did they think that sitting with my laptop to watch TV, in my home, where there's already a TV with a STB in the living room AND the bedroom, is useful? I'dd rather watch the TV. Screen is bigger and the sound system is better, too.

No one is forcing you to use the app. I can't help but notice 95% of the time you post here it involves you crying about something you either don't pay for at all or the issue is so minuscule that I get the feeling you take joy in making these posts.

Anywho...

The reason the app is restricted to in home use is because the Cablevision contract with content providers permits them to transmit the same content to as many STBs as the customer has within the home without charging more (minus the obvious monthly charge of the actual STB.) Cablevision was able to win their lawsuits by arguing that iPads/iPhones can be considered a STB as long as it was only being used in the home. Thus the reason why all the Optimum Apps are provided at no additional charge to customers. Could the app technically allow you to connect to the Cablevision network and watch all of the live content anywhere you had an internet connection? Sure...but then they would be in violation of their existing contracts and then the content providers would pull their feed like Scripps did a while back. And god only knows the posts you would make if that happened again..

finally someone with some sense. thank you

CTMustang
Premium
join:2007-09-10
France

reply to pa prowler
so back to how we fool it into thinking it's on a laptop



cvtv

@charter.com

reply to CTMustang

said by CTMustang:

said by juicem2:

I'm not complaining. It is free and can come in handy. My daughter does not have a tv in her room. Now, she can take the laptop in her room or wherever in the house to watch tv and it doesn't cost a cent. It is a win win situation. People need to stop complaining. I don't think many other cablecos or telcos offer this feature.

My sister uses it in her room too.... at my parents house. I'd just love to be able to hook it up to her 32 inch tv and not have to pay for the shitty cablevision box, not to mention I don't want to have to run coax into her room.

As with everything technology, I'm sure it could be figured out....I see one way is to get an iMac......... wonder what the mac does differently as that's not cost effective for me. I am swimming in P4 dell desktops though.

If cablevision let you use the App and connect it to tv, would you pay them $7 extra a month?

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

I'd pay $1 or $2 at most per month to replace a STB with a desktop of my own running the app with video out to TV. I'd love free though.

They could easily charge by limiting simultaneous logons to your account across any ID (and, since it can only be used in-home, it's not like you can just borrow a family member's ID/pwd). However, the thing with charging for the app is that they then need to credit for the app when it doesn't work, and that would probably waste a large chunk of the paltry revenue gained in time spent crediting.



cvtv

@charter.com

You can always get a Ceton or another good tuner, and you can easily watch tv on 4 computers/tv's for $2 a month.

The problem with that is it's not free, and that's what it sounds like most people on here want. Cablevision gives you something for free, but it's just not good enough. I don't see many cable providers giving 1/2 the stuff cablevision provides for the same price.


chunk73
Premium
join:2002-02-22
Fairfield, CT

said by cvtv :

You can always get a Ceton or another good tuner, and you can easily watch tv on 4 computers/tv's for $2 a month.

The problem with that is it's not free, and that's what it sounds like most people on here want. Cablevision gives you something for free, but it's just not good enough. I don't see many cable providers giving 1/2 the stuff cablevision provides for the same price.

Do you really think this is going to be free forever? Based on cablevisions past history I highly doubt it. I love the optimum app for IOS devices. My wife and I use it daily and my kids are starting to use it often on their ipod touches. It is really a valuable perk and because of these advancements I have refrained from switching to another provider. Cablevision is not cheap but they have an advantage over the competition af this point.

Back to my main point. I really dont think CV will keep this app free forever. Everyone is using it and CV knows it. If they decided to charge $$$ for it, even at this point in time I think people would pay for it, because it adds value and is something that most people would use almost on a daily basis. Obviously the same fee as a traditional STB would be excessive and I would not be willing to pay that much, but each IOS device for $1 per month, most people would probably pay it.


limegrass69
Here's my Posting tag

join:2008-05-28

It would be nice if they kept it free in your home, but charged you a modest fee to use the app outside your home.



JohnILM
Holla
Premium
join:2003-03-15
Tuckahoe, NY

1 edit

reply to pa prowler
Would be nice if they gave you the option to put it in a window. I'm trying a transparent window maker right now. Watching TV through the browser window.

Works okay on some sites, but it's weird though.

I'll post a video if I can.

Edit: Works better for text based sites, obviously.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqML-5H5wi0

papapew

join:2006-08-31
Oakhurst, NJ

reply to pa prowler
Seems like the app uses TONS of CPU power. I have a core i7 (2.2 Ghz), and my laptop will just shut down from overheating if the fan is not completely unobstructed.


dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

said by papapew:

Seems like the app uses TONS of CPU power. I have a core i7 (2.2 Ghz), and my laptop will just shut down from overheating if the fan is not completely unobstructed.

sounds like you may have an issue with your laptop

app works fine on my laptop

papapew

join:2006-08-31
Oakhurst, NJ

What kind of utilization are you seeing on the CPU?

I'm seeing about 80-90% on all cores


papapew

join:2006-08-31
Oakhurst, NJ
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

reply to pa prowler
NEVER MIND...

I manually updated to Silverlight 5 and changed the optimum app icon to open the 64-bit version of silverlight instead.

(I changed the target from "Program Files (x86)" to "Program Files")

CPU is now 10-20% when running video!



Masterchewy

join:2004-11-02
Hartsdale, NY

1 edit

reply to pa prowler
A new version was uploaded yesterday.
»www.optimum.net/OptimumDesktop/upgrade



JohnILM
Holla
Premium
join:2003-03-15
Tuckahoe, NY

reply to pa prowler

Been getting this alert today. Every once and a while. Anyone else?

Edit: I click the OKAY and it goes away. I don't have to sign-out or sign-in. Odd.
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