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Re: RANT: Itunes is the Biggest Piece of Shit

reply to Derspankster
Like all things that come out of Cupertino, iTunes is pure dog shit. I hated using it when I had the iPod and iPhone . As a media player, it blows. It’s clunky, loads a bunch of extra non needed crap, comes bundled with QuickTime, I’ve had Restores fail because iTunes fucked up, poor visualizations, poor sound quality, lousy overall interface.

Winamp has been my media player of choice since 1999. As soon as I bought my first iPod, 2005, I downloaded some plugins for Winamp that were supposed to allow me to synch, but they didn’t really work well, so I stuck with iTunes. I started replacing my pirated music collection with iTunes purchased music, DRM and all, so now I had no choice but to use that god awful software. When all iTunes music became DRM free I was overjoyed, paid the 30 cents per song and redownloaded my music so that I could play it on Winamp. Winamp, IMO provides much better sound quality, especially when you take the time and customize the EQ to your liking. I also love the Milkdrop full screen visualizations from Geiss.

Not using iTunes as a media player was my first step away from Apple. Last year I dumped my iPhone, earlier this year I got rid of my iPod Classic and bought a Sony Walkman, and now with the Android Music Store, a few weeks ago, I decided instead of uninstalling iTunes, to completely reformat my hard drive so I could be sure that I have no remnants of anything related to Apple.

Now I use Google Music to buy music, download it to my PC via Google Music Manager, then sync it to my MP3 Player using Winamp. I can wirelessly synch my tablet and phone with my music library as well if I wish, using the Winamp Android app, but now instead of using actual music files, I just stream from Google’s Music Cloud.

I love Winamp, not just as an all-around media player, but the extras are cool. Their Shoutcast network of internet radio stations is top notch, I love the Metro Lyrics service. This is one powerful little program, I’ve been using it for 12 years, and probably don’t know half of what it is capable of. I thought Winamp would go downhill when AOL bought Nuffsoft out, but it hasn’t.

100% Apple free and lovin’ it!

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I curse the day I bought an Ipod.

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reply to Derspankster
For those of you up in arms about iTunes and iDevices, try Cowon products, while they supply a media program you don't need it to copy/paste/drag/drop to the players, and the sound quality is vastly superior.

As the Apple putting a limit to how many registered computers can be used, thank the prostitutes of the music industry for many of the things you don't like. The RIAA and MPAA are behind the policies that anger you.
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i lol'd. Thanks Steve Mehs, I really needed that laugh.

reply to Derspankster
I just want to play my .flac songs. But nooooo.

Yeah, that's another thing! No flac!!!

reply to Steve Mehs
how much will that Walkman Z Series will it be cheaper then the ipod touch ?

reply to Derspankster
I haven't installed or used iTunes, Winamp has done fine since the 90s, and I haven't touched Quicktime since about then either. I remember installing Safari a few years back, and it tried to annex my machine into the Apple empire, but I refused the Quicktime EULA.

I don't ever intend on using itunes, nor recommending it to anyone, for pretty much all the reasons stated here.

reply to Derspankster
My kid got an iPod touch a couple of years ago. Hate the thing. Plug it, iTunes erases everything. And then doubles up all the songs in the list? What? And..oh...my personal favourite. This ipod touch has been bricked 3 times in its life. Including the day we got it. (Stupid me...shoulda clued in right there) Anyways, the common thread in the device being bricked? Being plugged into itunes. That means another trip to the Apple store for them to fix it. Here's the really laughable part. Every single time, the itard at the store says "We'll reinstall the is, bit have you backed it up? Because its going to be wiped." The last time, I told the guy "Yes I know. But I'm used to that because that's what happens everytime I plug it into iTunes to begin with."
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reply to Derspankster
*shrug* I've been using iTunes for years. It's always worked well for me. Much prefer syncing over drag and drop. However Apple needs to rewrite it. The interface is getting cluttered, they're putting too much into a single program.

reply to Derspankster
Trying to figure what the hate is for iTunes..... Been using it for years. Import stuff into it and it keeps the files organized. Connect iPod or iPhone and it syncs with the music and other things (contacts, notes, etc). Create playlists and they work, etc. I can create a random playlist of, say 10GB that will pick 10GB out of my library to sync, etc.

I don't get the love for drag and drop. Have that on my Droid X and it's horrible. Why would I want to manage files this way? I ended up getting iSyncr to sync it to iTunes. It's one of the may ways Android needs help in the usability front.

I will admit it tries to do too much and the UI needs an overhaul but the concept works. In much the same way that Aperture, iPhoto, and Adobe Lightroom work for photos.

They must be doing something right as all the iPod "killers" have fallen by the wayside, "Plays For Sure" is DOA, and pretty much you have a bunch of others (Cowon, Sansa, Sony) and the iPhine.

reply to Derspankster
My sister spent 400 bucks on an iPod solution for my mother (also got her a docking station to make it into a stereo for her apartment.

I'm actually going to be taking my new 32 gig epad Transformer up to show my mother. It is about 5 times as big, and thus easier to hold and use. I can put any damned songs on it I feel like. And the inherent speakers on it are loud enough it doesn't even need speakers as an additive.

Wish my sister wasn't such a bloody yuppie and had consulted me before buying mom the damned hard to use, hard to employ doodad that was meant for a yuppie's pocket, not 78 year old ladies who can't relate to technology.

It all sorts of effort for sister to load the iPod, takes me no effort whatsoever to load my Transformer.

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reply to Derspankster
what i don't understand is why oeople are so bent out of shape about software and hardware they admittedly don't use. you hate itunes, iphones, ipods...who cares? use a zune, windows media player, winamp, cowon use an AM/FM walkman for all i care. apple does NOT force you to use their products. there is no way anyone could consider them a monopoly.

this thread is pointless.
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reply to itguy05
For pete's sake add in support and the option of buying FLAC for the 10+1 people who use it (good for lossless backups).

reply to Fronkman
It just shows that people are not alone in the world for hating/loving something. These threads are not pointless. You can learn some valuable info.

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reply to Not a Fanboi
my old click wheel ipod (not sure of what gen) will plug right in to my work computer and never asks me to erase anything.

Is that the ONLY computer you ever attach it to?

ITunes has a BIG problem if you try to attach a device to two computers.