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Re: [Spam] Yahoo groups spammers If you have a Yahoo account, go to groups.yahoo.com and click "My Email Preferences" near the top-right of your groups page.
In there, you can set the preferences for each registered e-mail address. I recommend setting all options to No.
But Yahoo admits (in their help pages on abuse) that only solves a few fairly specific situations. All they say is keep reporting the errant groups/members and they'll deal with it. I believe Yahoo is one of the few that actually *does* nuke members & groups that are spamming. But probably not as proactively as we'd all like.
Brad.
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| said by b_p_smith:If you have a Yahoo account, go to groups.yahoo.com and click "My Email Preferences" near the top-right of your groups page.
That is actually my main point! I don't have a yahoo account, never had, and probably never will. In order to report anything, they want to first force me to create a yahoo account.
For example, clicking the link "send us a copy" here simply kicks me back to the main help screen where all contact links are greyed out. There is no abuse e-mail address contact listed anywhere (of course I could guess or google what it might be  ). There is no classic "contact us" section. | |
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| Yeah, being able for a group owner to invite people by external e-mail address just shouldn't be permitted by Yahoo anyway. Minimal value for such a huge risk of abuse. Your situation is listed as one of the "unfortunately..." limitations.
The "send a copy" link works for me, but *only* in IE. In Firefox the page comes up but doesn't work properly. I walked through the initial pages (yes, more than one) and it's a bit of a PITA. Obviously Yahoo doesn't *really* want to encourage reports.
And yes, Yahoo is not supporting an "abuse@" e-mail. SpamCop's reporting supposedly has a mechanism to get reports to them, but there's really zero evidence that reporting via SpamCop (to anybody, not just Yahoo) actually has any effect at all.
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| said by b_p_smith:Yeah, being able for a group owner to invite people by external e-mail address just shouldn't be permitted by Yahoo anyway.
An invitation I can ignore. They are subscribing me directly. There should be an opt-in confirmation mechanism in the welcome e-mail (see 12/05/2011 message "welcome to the ... group" in my original list), and, unless I click on that link, i will not be added. Even better, there should also be a special link in the welcome message to report fraudulent subscriptions to yahoo. This could be fully automated on the yahoo side. Any group that reaches a complaint threshold could get flagged automatically.
Currently, the welcome e-mail contains the following text and link:
Report abuse:
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Because Yahoo! Groups values your privacy, it is a violation of our
service rules for moderators to add subscribers to a group against
their wishes. If you feel this has happened, please notify us:
»help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups···use.html
Reporting via that link is a lengthy multi-click affair and has the Yahoo ID as required field on the last form, i.e. a dead end for me.  Why can't the link encode the offending group and destination address directly in its url instead for a simple one-click action?? If they allow forced subscriptions without yahoo ID, they should not require one to report abuse! Right?
Actively unsubscribing here might not be a good idea, because it indirectly confirms the validity of the original e-mail address to the spammer. | |
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| What happens if you put a fake Yahoo ID in that last form field? You're right that requiring an ID to report abuse shouldn't be required.
Personally, I rank Yahoo just under AOL in the "don't give a rat's a** about preventing abuse" category. At least I get *some* valid Yahoo e-mail. AOL I just block entirely now.
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