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[Classes] Body And Soul: The Priest Thread (4.2.X - 4.X.X)

Okay does anyone use charka because I feel it's a waste. Please prove me wrong I have seen some priest mana never drop when they use it.

Aren't supposed to keep chakra at almost 100% up time?

reply to yneetwo
Aside from providing some kind of throughput through flat passive bonus or utility in addition to the change to our Holy Word spell...yeah, Chakra is mandatory.

If you are playing a Holy Priest and you are not using Chakra, you are doing it wrong. If you are "never seeing mana drop" you're also not talking about Level 85 Priests.

Chakra isn't an optional talent at 85 while healing, nor is the playstyle. If you are a Holy Priest and you are healing you will have Chakra and you will use it.
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Lore Nerd. Role Player. Raid Leader. Discipline Priest. Slightly Annoying. Also Likes Kittens.

reply to Adalicia
Funny you should restart this thread again. I had shelved my main toon (rogue)last week as there is simply nothing left for me to do on him til 4.3. I dust off my priest last night. Havent played it in months and last time I did I was Holy spec-and all the nastiness that went with it prior to chakra change, healing changes, etc.

I respecced to Disc last night and research a little info and it plays well so far.Though to be honest, 1 night with this spec doesnt give a lot of insight.

What follows is some copy pasta for disc rotations (such as they are), correct any glaring problems as I too need help.

Priest Discipline Single Target Rotation 4.2
1. First priority is to get Power Word: Shield on the tank.

2. Whenever Penance is off cooldown, use it.

3. Heal should be your primary healing spell.

4. Only use Greater Heal when tank is taking serious damage.

5. Flash Heal should only be used in emergency situations. (takes up way to much mana).

Priest Discipline Multiple Target Rotation 4.2
1. Throw Power Word: Shield on whoever you think will be taking the most damage.

2. Use Prayer of Healing as your main Aoe heal.

3. Use Penance when it’s available.

4. Use Greater Heal spell for your spot heals.

5. Try not to use Flash Heal unless really needed.

Priest Discipline Glyphs 4.2
Prime: Glyph of Power Word: Shield, Glyph of Penance, Glyph of Prayer of Healing

Major: Glyph of Prayer of Mending, Glyph of Dispel Magic, Third one is up to you

That looks like it would be correct.

A few things I'd add though...

There is no mention of Prayer of Mending. Regardless of spec, Prayer of Mending is a bread and butter spell. It has amazing throughput and mana efficiency. Prayer of Mending should be cast on the tank at the start of an encounter and used on every cooldown. In AoE damage situations it can dish out an amazing amount of healing.

Power Word: Barrier is a fine AoE mitigation tool. During the most stressing of group healing conditions where spreading out isn't mandatory this should also be considered.

Pain Suppression. During high spike damage portions of a fight (more specifically and generally on your tank) this is one of the single best external tank cool downs in the game. It should not be forgotten.

Power Infusion. Mana problems can be mitigated a bit by remembering to keep this up when you need it, or rather during heavy casting portions of an encounter where the extra haste will be nice and the reduced mana costs very helpful. Don't waste this on DPS anymore, we have our own shit to worry about.

You should be mitigating the mana cost with Inner Focus whenever you can.

Renew also isn't mentioned. While it isn't as powerful as the Holy version of it (due largely to talents and Chakra mechanics) it is still one of the single best HoT spells in the game. At the very least I'd think you'll be maintaining Renew on a tank and if the damage someone has taken isn't likely to be repeated any time soon it'd be a fine "mop" up spell for Discipline.

Flash Heal should never be used unless it can't be helped. This much is very true, but unless content has changed drastically (and my time revisiting heroics, including the newer remakes of Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub) you will find yourself using it more frequently then you'd like. Perhaps I had under geared tanks, perhaps the lack of CC, whatever the case, I did indeed have to use it more than a few times.

As Holy it is more excusable because at the very least you're getting Serendipity stacks which then can be turned towards that quick Greater Heal or Prayer of Healing. Discipline has no such luck.

And of course you have your normal bag of Generic Priest Cooldowns, meaning Shadowfiend, Hymn of Hope, and Divine Hymn. The first two are piece of mind for your mana bar, the last one your "Oh-Shit" group heal.

As for Glyphs? They look like they always have so I'd assume they're solid.
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Lore Nerd. Role Player. Raid Leader. Discipline Priest. Slightly Annoying. Also Likes Kittens.

reply to Skittles

You want to at least pop 2 Heal to help reduce the CD on Weakend Sould of your target so you can another bubble up there ASAP. Good practice to get into
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I'm not loafing. I work so fast I'm always finished.
If idiots could fly, this would be an airport.

That's only if your aren't attonement.. I was basically getting at non attonement is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....

(yes I heal HM's with Attonement even with attonement haters everywhere)

Perhaps this al stems from the DPS I shelled out prior to Attonement healing..

Sup #1 world disc DPS on 25 H LK pre nerf LOLOLOL (had damn near 100% dot uptime on that hoe "p)

reply to Adalicia
Thanks Ada. Your posts are always insightful.

reply to Arsinic
Speaking from extremely limited experience as a Disc Priest I find that Smite healing was a bit of a coin flip for me. I was hesitant to stop clicking my mouse on the raid frames with constant heals and spam smite thinking that how could i EVER keep the tank and melee alive around a boss if i'm being THAT healer who thinks he's a dps? well, it turned out smite healing seems to be easy mode in atonement with an occasional penance, PoM, and consistent bubbling. I still try to maintain an easy 2 Heal rotation after laying a bubble (at least on the tank) in atonement though.
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I'm not loafing. I work so fast I'm always finished.
If idiots could fly, this would be an airport.

reply to Arsinic
Healing is for pussies. Shadow or GTFO!

reply to Adalicia
Thanks for starting this thread, Ada.

My priest is currently Shadow/AtonementDisc while I'm gearing her up, but soon she will drop shad for Holy.
Nathrezim: Malanorei

My healing "rotation":
-POM
-Bubble Tank
-Penance Tank
-Holy Fire + Smite X 4 for evangelism (boss fight) OR Smite X 5 (trash. can't justify mana cost for HF for trash that dies quickly)
-AA
-Smite healing for filler, heal for light dmg on ranged, Penance on CD

If tank need a big heal, bubble-hasted GHeal
If 3 or more soaking dmg bubble-hasted PoH

lots more situational things for the huge toolkit of spells, but these are the basics.

reply to Adalicia
I've shelved my Warrior and am back to playing my good ol' sPriest. And will write up a few things that I feel are important for the guys who want to play sPriest PvP.

The IT department at my command has been Nazis lately though and are being real ass hats about people and their net use, so I'll drop in from time to time and try to make my posts worthwhile.

This time around my info will be from a PvP standpoint as I don't have time to raid anymore and honestly have much more fun pwning n00bs than slaying net dragons anyway.

I missed you Ada, thanks for coming back.

yay Mc is back, and possibly some more vids ? yes? no?

Yeah, but I won't put any out on my Priest right now...watching me die repeatedly is probably nearly as annoying as me actually dying repeatedly.

I haven't logged on this toon since about March...so my above average gear at the time is nearly worthless now, and I am having to grind honor for hours on end to even make myself relevant in a BG.

I did have a decent EOTS last night with 10 KBs and 0 deaths. Gotta love those double SW:D kb snipes!

I definitely plan on making some Priest vids when I get the gear to make them fun to watch.

I got offered revenue sharing from YouTube last week, so I need to make some new shit so I can possibly make some cash from it, lol.

awesome gl with it

reply to Adalicia