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ArrayList
netbus developer
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reply to Cheese

Re: [Caps] LIKE A BOSS

said by Cheese:

said by JigglyWiggly:

If you are an intense gamer and reformatted their pc or bought another one, just installing steam and reinstalling ur games takes 200 gigs in a month. Add netflix, to that, and bam.

And since that doesn't happen each month, it's a moot point...and if someone has 200gb just in games alone, they really need to get a life and go outside

you hush your mouth.


Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1

said by ArrayList:

said by Cheese:

said by JigglyWiggly:

If you are an intense gamer and reformatted their pc or bought another one, just installing steam and reinstalling ur games takes 200 gigs in a month. Add netflix, to that, and bam.

And since that doesn't happen each month, it's a moot point...and if someone has 200gb just in games alone, they really need to get a life and go outside

you hush your mouth.


jaymz668

join:2002-03-21
Bloomington, IN

reply to Cheese

said by Cheese:

And since that doesn't happen each month, it's a moot point...and if someone has 200gb just in games alone, they really need to get a life and go outside

that's only about 10-15 games. Not that many.
after a year or so they certainly add up.


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
Premium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3

get an external harddrive to store them on
heres a 2TB drive
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···22148503

the time you'll save will be more than worth it and your neighbors will be happier


jaymz668

join:2002-03-21
Bloomington, IN

At that price per year (since it's only warranted for a year) it's kind of high. What time? I can set the games to download and install all by themself and leave for work in the morning...



DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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Baytown, TX
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well people have so far only said 200-300gb and I'd bet a 250-500gb drive would be dirt cheap



Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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·Site5.com

said by DarkLogix:

well people have so far only said 200-300gb and I'd bet a 250-500gb drive would be dirt cheap

1TB drive at Target right now for $50.

I really don't understand how people on this forum especially, get along without a backup method. You would think this forum has a bunch of users with one computer and one hard drive. When I think DSLR, I think of techies who have a couple different internal drives. Maybe they have RAID. They have ways to keep their data long term because they download gigabytes of music and movies for their viewing pleasure. Yet, when you mention backing up their games, these same people say, "Oh no! I don't have the space or I can't do it. I MUST DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE 200GB OF GAMES OR I CANNOT FUNCTION."

It just makes no sense to me. I use my external drive, backup the info on my old computer and restore it to the new one. I have everything that I need to play. I wouldn't fathom of downloading 200gb of games because it takes too damn long.
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jaymz668

join:2002-03-21
Bloomington, IN

said by Nightfall:

I really don't understand how people on this forum especially, get along without a backup method. You would think this forum has a bunch of users with one computer and one hard drive.

I do backup, game saves.
I also backup to a dedicated file server and to Crashplan online.
If my house were hit by the tornadoes a couple weeks back I would have been SOL with regards to restoring my data from a drive in it.
Which is another reason these caps are asinine.


DarkLogix
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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theses a simple way to do this
2 backups
1 on site for fast recovery
1 offsite (or cloud if you like) for major disaster recovery

its people that insist on re-downloading 200+GB that are the problem as they fail to "properly" backup

with the 2 backups if your harddrive dies you can just restore from your on-site backup if your home is toast then you can restore from the off-site backup

so you already have "crashplan" so all you'd need is an external drive (a one time cost) to do the on-site and then you don't have to use a ton of bandwidth to restore unless something horrable happens


jaymz668

join:2002-03-21
Bloomington, IN

said by DarkLogix:

so all you'd need is an external drive (a one time cost)

An external drive is far from a one time cost. External drives fail a lot more quickly than internal, and an external drive is a horrible way to backup multiple computers, it is a hassle and will lead to not backing up at all or the backups being horribly outdated.


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3

if you have multiple computers then something like the windows home server would do it

again a 1 time cost

and most would expect an ext drive to last more than a year thus even the 2TB drive comes out to $7.50/month



Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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reply to jaymz668

said by jaymz668:

said by Nightfall:

I really don't understand how people on this forum especially, get along without a backup method. You would think this forum has a bunch of users with one computer and one hard drive.

I do backup, game saves.
I also backup to a dedicated file server and to Crashplan online.
If my house were hit by the tornadoes a couple weeks back I would have been SOL with regards to restoring my data from a drive in it.
Which is another reason these caps are asinine.

I agree with what DarkLogix says. I have two different kinds of backups. The cloud backups are only financial information, passwords, and other scanned documents. Those only equate to about 250mb. The rest of it is music I ripped from CDs, movies I have ripped from DVDs, and so on. Yes, a tornado comes through, I will need to rerip all that crap again after I get my insurance payment. At the same time, all the stuff offsite is protected, and that stuff doesn't change very often. Thats all barring that the tornado or fire can eat through my fireproof safe in the basement.

What I don't get are the people who believe they should do a full online backup of 250gb worth of stuff everyday. Hell, differentials are not that hard to implement and that is only a fraction of cost.

I have the same 1TB drive that I bought about 2 years ago. It works well. In fact, I have 2 of the drives. One is in a fireproof safe and the other is connected to the server doing backups.

What I find asinine are people who believe that the ONLY way to do something is their way or its a huge inconvenience. There are many ways to skin a cat. Backup is not that damn difficult. You just have to have some common sense to protect yourself from even a natural disaster. In the end, if you do it intelligently, you won't have to go over the cap either.
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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
Reviews:
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reply to jaymz668
You can
1}pay the extra ($25, in your, as yet unexplained, case)
2}buy one or more external devices and begin a program of shipping data offsite
3} stop whining, just because you pay ComCast (or anybody else) for some service, it does not mean EVERYTHING else is free.
If in fact your games and financial data, really are IMPORTANT then it may cost a little more to back them up.



ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

reply to Nightfall
I have this. IT IS IN A DATACENTER!

It is safer there than in my home. My house burns up, it is history. The datacenter won't burn up. HALON HALON HALON.


jaymz668

join:2002-03-21
Bloomington, IN

reply to Nightfall
Obviously you don't value digital photos of your life, media you have paid for and downloaded, etc. Nit everything comes from or is available from a hard copy. I have over 2 TB of data spread across 9 computers. All personal, all legal. Photos, home movies, purchased software, movies, music, etc.

A fireproof safe is useless if it gets destroyed. A drive in that safe won't survive being tossed around well, and likely won't have the most recent data on it anyway.

Backup is not easy, that's why so many people don't do it.


jaymz668

join:2002-03-21
Bloomington, IN

reply to tshirt
Everything else? You mean actual access to the internet that I am paying for? Or to access services I am paying for?

I don't have to explain why I am only paying 34.99, I don't know why, but that is what my bill says.



Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
Reviews:
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·Callcentric
·Site5.com

reply to jaymz668

said by jaymz668:

Obviously you don't value digital photos of your life, media you have paid for and downloaded, etc. Nit everything comes from or is available from a hard copy. I have over 2 TB of data spread across 9 computers. All personal, all legal. Photos, home movies, purchased software, movies, music, etc.

A fireproof safe is useless if it gets destroyed. A drive in that safe won't survive being tossed around well, and likely won't have the most recent data on it anyway.

Backup is not easy, that's why so many people don't do it.

Incorrect. Backup is incredibly simple. You just need the common sense AND PLANNING to do it right. 2TB is a lot of data, but its easy to back it up and keep it secure. Hell, I do that on 1TB right now. Doing it in the cloud is not the right method on a broadband connection. If you would like some help in backing that up, let me know in a PM. I would be happy to show you a low cost method that would be about $200 in total equipment costs plus a little of your time to get it off site. That backup method would be good for about two years given a 500gb increase every year.
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Sgt Raven

join:2007-02-01
Fpo, AE

reply to jaymz668

said by jaymz668:

Obviously you don't value digital photos of your life, media you have paid for and downloaded, etc. Nit everything comes from or is available from a hard copy. I have over 2 TB of data spread across 9 computers. All personal, all legal. Photos, home movies, purchased software, movies, music, etc.

A fireproof safe is useless if it gets destroyed. A drive in that safe won't survive being tossed around well, and likely won't have the most recent data on it anyway.

Backup is not easy, that's why so many people don't do it.

If you're that worried about your house burning/ blowing down then stick your of site back up in a safety deposit box.


DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

reply to ArrayList
Somebody needs to make a script that automatically uses remaining bandwidth on the last night of the bill cycle. Probably would be pretty easy in conjunction with Tomato firmware.

Why you ask?

Just because.



mod_wastrel
iamwhatiam

join:2008-03-28
kudos:1

reply to ArrayList
Congrats! Showing up on a graph, however, is the only place anyone would ever notice your usage, even if you doubled it (or halved it for that matter)--zero effect on Comcast's bottom line or your neighbor's speeds).

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