[Other] Straight Talk allowing REAL smartphones on their network

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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	[Other] Straight Talk allowing REAL smartphones on their network I came across this thread »www.howardforums.com/showthread.···d-iPhone And figured I would give a try as it seemed really easy and I wanted a smartphone but not the bill that comes with having one on a contract carrier. Well I went and bought the Nokia E71 at the local Wal Mart ($199.99) and bought the $45 month unlimited card, and then I found a iPhone 3G 16GB on Craigslist and bought that. Well..it actually works. You need the SIM out of the ST Nokia phones (E71 or the 6970) and then you put the sim in the iPhone and you'll get voice and text to get 3G data working you have to go to that website in the how-to to set it up using WIFI on your iPhone. But $45 month for unlimited voice/texting and data using AT&T coverage? Count me in.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	Re: [Other] Straight Talk allowing REAL smartphones on their net No one has done this? Shocking to say the least..I would be all over it. But that's me I guess I'll save the money instead of throwing it away for the same service on a contract with AT&T.
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broccoli join:2007-11-29 Portland, OR	Is it actually unlimited data? I used over 12 GB last month (mostly by tethering, do they allow that too?), and will probably use more this month. Oops, just checked their website. I can live with no international calling (can use calling card etc), but cannot accept no international roaming. And I haven't found any prepaid service in the US that allows international roaming. While I might not like international roaming rates, having the option available is important to me. I travel out of the country at least 3 times a year.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 1 edit	said by broccoli: Is it actually unlimited data? I used over 12 GB last month (mostly by tethering, do they allow that too?), and will probably use more this month. Oops, just checked their website. I can live with no international calling (can use calling card etc), but cannot accept no international roaming. And I haven't found any prepaid service in the US that allows international roaming. While I might not like international roaming rates, having the option available is important to me. I travel out of the country at least 3 times a year. 12GB? lol good luck as the service is provided by AT&T. As far as tethering, its not supported, but I believe you can do it with a jailbroken iPhone. Straight Talk does have international calling »www.straighttalkild.com/straight···talk.asp Edit: That link doesn't seem to be working right, but if you look on their site, they do offer it for a extra fee.
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btB @rr.com	It is a loophole with Straight Talk, and I am pretty sure they know about it as well. How much longer it will last is anybody's guess. Another reason people are hesitant to try it is they have purchase and hold onto a $200 phone.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN 2 edits	said by btB : It is a loophole with Straight Talk, and I am pretty sure they know about it as well. How much longer it will last is anybody's guess. Another reason people are hesitant to try it is they have purchase and hold onto a $200 phone. True, true..BUT $45/month for unlimited (data is capped though) is a hell of a deal compared if you were to go to AT&T or Verizon directly. You can't even get that price if you got their 450/500 minute package. From what I have read on that link in my OP is that ST's data cap per month is around 2GB, but some people have said they got past 2GB/month but I'd be afraid to because ST will straight up blacklist your SIM card and then your screwed. Unless you beg them to undo the ban. But hell..$45/month for unlimited voice and text and 2GB data is hella deal if you ask me for a REAL smartphone like the iPhone and you get the coverage of AT&T. (I actually used 411 today and even that was powered by AT&T.) So the upfront costs will pay for itself pretty quickly in your monthly costs. I plan to buy ST's 6 month unlimited card on their site which comes to $125.99 (a discount price compared if you bought in store) That price alone is probably what you would pay AT&T for the same service plan in a single month. Is there a risk of ST shutting down the ability to use a iPhone? Yes. But I sure will take advantage of the situation while I can. And if you check when that thread was made it was literally MONTHS ago, last year? Edit: You can buy the Nokia E71 on Walmart.com cheaper than if you were to go to the store itself, at the store its $199.99 on the site its $169.00 »www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk···ications
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Lone Wolf Independent Voter, Buy Gold and Guns Premium join:2001-12-30 USA kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon Online DSL ·Comcast	reply to ztmike said by ztmike: No one has done this? Shocking to say the least..I would be all over it. But that's me I guess I'll save the money instead of throwing it away for the same service on a contract with AT&T. I'm not shocked at all. How many people are going to buy a Nokia phone and an iPhone to get a better deal on monthly service? The Nokia was $200 and a new iPhone can cost up to $900. A used iPhone is a crapshoot when bought from ebay or craigslist. That's going to cost a lot of upfront money many people can't afford just to save about $15 monthly from their phone bill. Some carriers are charging only $60 monthly for what they call unlimited everything. Just bring a phone with a sim card. Besides, not everyone wants an iphone, including me. I agree that if you go to ATT with your iphone they will rape you with all of their charges and the monthly bill with the $45 data charge. But ATT is offering the first gen iphone for as low as $19 for existing customers with a 2 year contract.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	quote: I'm not shocked at all. How many people are going to buy a Nokia phone and an iPhone to get a better deal on monthly service? Me? And obviously ALOT of other people. quote: The Nokia was $200 Its $200 in store, $169 on website. And yes it is a little up front costs but it beats getting stuck paying what you would if you went to AT&T or Verizon directly. Go price compare the same plan and get back to me if it even comes close to $45/month (not sure where you got $15 savings?) quote: and a new iPhone can cost up to $900. lol $900? Where you getting these prices? A unlocked iPhone 4 32GB probably ain't even that high used. quote: A used iPhone is a crapshoot when bought from ebay or craigslist. Not if you buy from a trusted seller on eBay, and if you buy on Craigslist, you get to test the product before you buy. quote: That's going to cost a lot of upfront money many people can't afford just to save about $15 monthly from their phone bill. I never did say it was going to be cheap upfront, but it pays for itself over time pretty damn quickly. And again--where you getting only $15 in savings? Go screen grab a AT&T/Verizon monthly price (On top of possibly having to put down a multi hundred dollar deposit, PLUS an ETF.) quote: Some carriers are charging only $60 monthly for what they call unlimited everything. Just bring a phone with a sim card. 1.) What "some carriers" would this be? 2.) Yea buy the phone outright which will come out to about the same price as you would setting up a Straight Talk account with the iPhone of choice. quote: Besides, not everyone wants an iphone, including me. Then why bother replying to the thread in the first place? And if you actually read the thread in my OP its not just limited to the iPhone. quote: I agree that if you go to ATT with your iphone they will rape you with all of their charges and the monthly bill with the $45 data charge. But ATT is offering the first gen iphone for as low as $19 for existing customers with a 2 year contract First gen iPhone? What? lol AT&T sells only the iPhone 3GS and 4, and as far as I'm aware they sell the 3GS 8GB for $49.99. And yet again..you get stuck in a pricy contract with a lower level of service options.
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Lone Wolf Independent Voter, Buy Gold and Guns Premium join:2001-12-30 USA kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon Online DSL ·Comcast	said by ztmike: quote: I'm not shocked at all. How many people are going to buy a Nokia phone and an iPhone to get a better deal on monthly service? Me? And obviously ALOT of other people. I doubt it. quote: The Nokia was $200 said by ztmike: Its $200 in store, $169 on website. And yes it is a little up front costs but it beats getting stuck paying what you would if you went to AT&T or Verizon directly. Go price compare the same plan and get back to me if it even comes close to $45/month (not sure where you got $15 savings?) lol Seek and ye shall find. quote: and a new iPhone can cost up to $900. said by ztmike: lol $900? Where you getting these prices? A unlocked iPhone 4 32GB probably ain't even that high used. lol Try google. »www.estoreoffer.com/apple-iphone···742.html quote: A used iPhone is a crapshoot when bought from ebay or craigslist. said by ztmike: Not if you buy from a trusted seller on eBay, and if you buy on Craigslist, you get to test the product before you buy. quote: That's going to cost a lot of upfront money many people can't afford just to save about $15 monthly from their phone bill. I never did say it was going to be cheap upfront, but it pays for itself over time pretty damn quickly. And again--where you getting only $15 in savings? Go screen grab a AT&T/Verizon monthly price (On top of possibly having to put down a multi hundred dollar deposit, PLUS an ETF.) quote: Some carriers are charging only $60 monthly for what they call unlimited everything. Just bring a phone with a sim card. said by ztmike: 1.) What "some carriers" would this be? lol Try Simple Mobile for one 2.) Yea buy the phone outright which will come out to about the same price as you would setting up a Straight Talk account with the iPhone of choice. quote: Besides, not everyone wants an iphone, including me. said by ztmike: Then why bother replying to the thread in the first place? And if you actually read the thread in my OP its not just limited to the iPhone. quote: I agree that if you go to ATT with your iphone they will rape you with all of their charges and the monthly bill with the $45 data charge. But ATT is offering the first gen iphone for as low as $19 for existing customers with a 2 year contract First gen iPhone? What? lol AT&T sells only the iPhone 3GS and 4, and as far as I'm aware they sell the 3GS 8GB for $49.99. And yet again..you get stuck in a pricy contract with a lower level of service options. lol Gosh and golly I was wrong! It's now only one penny for an iphone from ATT for me. lol What ever happened to this? said by ztmike: However I'll be picking up a lg Star instead of the Nexus S. It will be the first true revolutionary cellphone to hit the market.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	quote: I doubt it. Have you even clicked the link in my OP? Look at the view count on that thread or take notice at least to how many pages there are, and how active that thread is for how old it is. quote: lol Seek and ye shall find. What? quote: lol Try google. »www.estoreoffer.com/apple-iphone···742.html lol I can go find a random website to that will have an over priced product to make other people think I'm right. I never even heard of that website. quote: lol Gosh and golly I was wrong! It's now only one penny for an iphone from ATT for me. That's all you have to say for everything you quoted from me? As far as your screen grab goes, what iPhone is that? Not that it matters anyway because what I have been trying to tell you is that staying in a high priced contract with AT&T for 2 years is retarded as you get the EXACT same service as I do using Straight Talk WITH unlimited text and voice for ALOT cheaper. You still haven't replied back with a answer to that.
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sonofjay Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003 Premium,MVM join:2001-05-14 Malden, MA kudos:1 1 edit	reply to ztmike Signed up for this last week. I bought a NiB iPhone from Ebay the week before, only to find out today that Apple are now offering unlocked iPhones in the US today for cheaper than they were going for on Ebay. (not much cheaper when you include tax that Apple will charge but cheaper still). I had been with VZ for years but when I looked at the cost to get an iPhone with them it was $200, locked into a 2 year contract with $80 a month and that did not include unlimited minutes, "unlimited data" or unlimited txt msgs. With ST I'd be saving 35 a month minimum and save even more on overages, txts, 'regulatory and admin fees", taxes, 411, etc. versus VZ. I decided to port my VZ number to Google Voice(Grand Central) instead of ST so that if things went bad with ST I could easily get another carrier immediately (prepaid or not) and have my phone number working right away. And if that ever happened I could then sell an unlocked iPhone on ebay. For international travel I plan on getting a SIM in the country I travel to and using the unlocked iPhone then. It's only been a week since I got the phone and ST and 1 day since porting to Google Voice but so far all is well. A few complaints about Google Voice (lack of MMS for one) but no complaints about ST. It is flexible and the cost savings make trying it a no brainer for me -- Mission Accomplished
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	said by sonofjay: For international travel I plan on getting a SIM in the country I travel to and using the unlocked iPhone then. I can't say I travel outside of the U.S so I could be wrong but I do know Straight Talk offers a international calling plan for an extra fee. I'm pretty sure it would work the same as it would on a regular Straight Talk phone like the Nokia E71 as you are getting the same level of service on the iPhone as any ST phone.
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sonofjay Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003 Premium,MVM join:2001-05-14 Malden, MA kudos:1	ST have international long distance for an extra fee but do not offer international roaming. -- Mission Accomplished
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	said by sonofjay: ST have international long distance for an extra fee but do not offer international roaming. Couldn't you get a unlocked iPhone, and then be able to call from overseas using ST's international calling plan? Or no? I don't know how that works because I don't need that feature. I wish I did as that would mean I would actually get out of this hell hole once in awhile.
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sonofjay Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003 Premium,MVM join:2001-05-14 Malden, MA kudos:1	No, ST do not offer roaming at all, period. That includes in the US and abroad. Calling plans are for long distance only, not roaming. -- Mission Accomplished
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	reply to ztmike Well if you can't do it with Verizon it's useles to me.
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	said by BF69: Well if you can't do it with Verizon it's useles to me. Drop Verizon? Verizon is CDMA, AT&T=GSM. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards, having the ability to use SIM cards is why people can switch phones so easily.
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	said by ztmike: Drop Verizon? What would be the point since at&t refuses to provide my area with 3G? What good is a data plan on a at&t network that is barely faster than dial-up?
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ztmike Mark for moderation Premium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN	said by BF69: said by ztmike: Drop Verizon? What would be the point since at&t refuses to provide my area with 3G? What good is a data plan on a at&t network that is barely faster than dial-up? Well then why bother looking past this thread when it was obvious that AT&T is the provider? For me AT&T is the best provider in the area. Verizon is worse than Sprint here.
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN 1 edit	said by ztmike: said by BF69: said by ztmike: Drop Verizon? What would be the point since at&t refuses to provide my area with 3G? What good is a data plan on a at&t network that is barely faster than dial-up? Well then why bother looking past this thread when it was obvious that AT&T is the provider? For me AT&T is the best provider in the area. Verizon is worse than Sprint here. Don't know about you but Straight Talk phones in my area use the Verizon network. I'm not sure WTF your issue is but YOU posted in another thread that Straight Talk allows you to use other companies smartphones. I'm asking questions
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