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Re: [Skype] Can't buy "Skype for Asterisk" after July I have read their reply, and it in no way explains how they got the exact results from a false/made-up search that Google used in their sting. MS got caught using Google to get search results for Bing, they don't have as good of product so they co-opted Google's search engine for themselves, and without letting Google or anyone else know they were doing so. Just like they have used Linux and other open source code in their products and have never adhered to the GNU public license and released the source they use and have modified. MS is not some benevolent company, as you seem to think. They rarely have innovated anything. They buy, copy and steal other people and companies achievements and then market them as their own. -sigh-
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| said by Dav3yDark0:They buy, copy and steal other people and companies achievements and then market them as their own. -sigh-
Check - »www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/···-google/
UPDATE: In an interview after the panel , Bing director Adam Sohn lashed out at Google, saying the search giant was being hypocritical and that it could have simply picked up the phone.
“We aren’t scraping search results,” Sohn said. “Everyone uses clickstream data in search. If Google was two percent of the internet, then maybe we wouldn’t look at what users do, but Google is a huge part of the internet.”
Sohn called the results outliers and that Google’s test was actually akin to a spammer attack that “pushed our system to a limit.”
Both companies are large, and have large legal departments. If there was any theft going on, we'd be reading about it in court documents.
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I just needed to load Skype on another computer for my wife to use, as we are in the process of moving, and the usual home PC is boxed up at the moment.
Microsoft would also help their bottom line if they stop offering Google Toolbar during every Skype install.
But then, maybe not... 
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Does Microsoft make a sip client? I can't think of one. I know live messenger has voip capability but I think its proprietary.
said by mazilo:said by PX Eliezer:I have always wondered why a man would name anything Micro and Soft.... As oppose to what, i.e Macro and Hard?  Well back in the day wasn't a pc called a "microcomputer"? Let' see... a company that makes SOFTware for MICROcomputers... yea lets call it "Computerware"! 
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
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kudos:1 | reply to pandora
said by pandora:I know it's fun for many to just hate Microsoft (or Ooma, or anything else you want to hate) mindlessly and for fun. NO and you DONN'T know! It seemed you ONLY know how to correlate the word HATE with anything that doesn't agree with you.
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
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kudos:1 | reply to JohnnyBeGood
said by JohnnyBeGood:Just got this in the email and was wondering if there's any other options besides Digium? How about writing your own Asterisk module for Skype? Here is what you need if you decide to go ahead. YES and it is a Skype reversed engineered source code from a working Skype 1.4, 3.x, and 4.x versions.
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| Whoo mazilo!
Are you gonna reply to every thread "well, do it your self"?
Or we'll continue to share? |
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
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kudos:1 | said by JohnnyBeGood:Are you gonna reply to every thread "well, do it your self"? Or we'll continue to share? Well, how about this. I have shared and provided you with the information on where to get the source code. Unless you expect to be spoon fed, perhaps it is time for you to get your hands dirty and do it your self to make it work with your Asterisk PBX System. Once you have achieved this, you sure are going to worry no more about the issue. Perhaps, you can also contribute your achievement here to share. I am sure folks here will be very happy and appreciative when you can contribute in this sense.
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| said by mazilo:said by JohnnyBeGood:Are you gonna reply to every thread "well, do it your self"? Or we'll continue to share? Well, how about this. I have shared and provided you with the information on where to get the source code. Unless you expect to be spoon fed, perhaps it is time for you to get your hands dirty and do it your self to make it work with your Asterisk PBX System. Once you have achieved this, you sure are going to worry no more about the issue. Perhaps, you can also contribute your achievement here to share. I am sure folks here will be very happy and appreciative when you can contribute in this sense. So, in your post here »[Other] [SkypeTrunk] Has anyone tried it? why you didn't got your hands dirty and did it your self? instead you're expecting others to spoon feed you.
I'm sure we can go back and forth with this but I'm reading this board for years and when I saw your reply I was little bit surprised that it came from you. Oh well.
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kudos:1 | reply to mazilo
said by mazilo:Well, how about this. I have shared and provided you with the information on where to get the source code. Unless you expect to be spoon fed, perhaps it is time for you to get your hands dirty Spoon fed? Maz, how bout I give you an engine and you ahead and build yourself a car? Are you drunk man? |
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
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kudos:1 | reply to JohnnyBeGood
said by JohnnyBeGood:said by mazilo:said by JohnnyBeGood:Are you gonna reply to every thread "well, do it your self"? Or we'll continue to share? Well, how about this. I have shared and provided you with the information on where to get the source code. Unless you expect to be spoon fed, perhaps it is time for you to get your hands dirty and do it your self to make it work with your Asterisk PBX System. Once you have achieved this, you sure are going to worry no more about the issue. Perhaps, you can also contribute your achievement here to share. I am sure folks here will be very happy and appreciative when you can contribute in this sense. So, in your post here » [Other] [SkypeTrunk] Has anyone tried it? why you didn't got your hands dirty and did it your self? instead you're expecting others to spoon feed you. That is a different story and it has nothing to do with the reverse engineered Skype source codes.
I'm sure we can go back and forth with this but I'm reading this board for years and when I saw your reply I was little bit surprised that it came from you. Oh well.
If you can't help and provide alternative link to service why bother posting.
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
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kudos:1 | reply to gweidenh
said by gweidenh:said by mazilo:Well, how about this. I have shared and provided you with the information on where to get the source code. Unless you expect to be spoon fed, perhaps it is time for you to get your hands dirty Spoon fed? Maz, how bout I give you an engine and you ahead and build yourself a car? If you are willing to send me a working engine, why not.
I hope you were not drunk when you offered me an engine.
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I agree with Mazilo on this one. 
He made a good suggestion. Some people here could carry it out, while others (including me) don't have the expertise for it. But it does not detract from the value of what he suggested.
Mazilo has been very helpful with these sorts of issues to many people.
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| On a related note, I am wondering what going to happen in the future for MSN. Will Microsoft keep it continuing as is or will also be a paid service? In addition, does anyone have any idea, or even rumors/speculations, about what Google will do regarding gtalk/google voice? I don't track these very closely so please forgive me for my ignorance. |
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| said by twinclouds:On a related note, I am wondering what going to happen in the future for MSN. Will Microsoft keep it continuing as is or will also be a paid service? In addition, does anyone have any idea, or even rumors/speculations, about what Google will do regarding gtalk/google voice? I don't track these very closely so please forgive me for my ignorance.
i do not think anyone knows the answer except those who read the highly confidential corporate memos, if there even are any memos speaking of such things.
if i had to take a guess i would say in a couple years the skype technology/P2P protocol will be powering the new version of MSN/Live messenger, and the actually skype branded service will have been retired.
perhaps existing skypenames will become Microsoft live ID's in the form: skypename@skype.net |
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said by OmagicQ:Well back in the day wasn't a pc called a "microcomputer"? Let' see... a company that makes SOFTware for MICROcomputers... yea lets call it "Computerware"!
I'll try to lighten the rhetoric a bit more.
I used to keep my original computer tower under my workstation. Would that be called "UNDERWARE"? |
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kudos:1 | reply to PX Eliezer
said by PX Eliezer:I agree with Mazilo on this one.
He made a good suggestion. Some people here could carry it out, while others (including me) don't have the expertise for it.
I disagree. For SFA to (continue to) work, code would have to be written on both sides. The Asterisk module and the Skype module.
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maziloFrom MaziloPremium
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kudos:1 | said by gweidenh:said by PX Eliezer:I agree with Mazilo on this one.
He made a good suggestion. Some people here could carry it out, while others (including me) don't have the expertise for it. I disagree. For SFA to (continue to) work, code would have to be written on both sides. The Asterisk module and the Skype module. Whether you agree or not it is irrelevant here because this reverse engineered Skype source code has nothing to do with SFA. SFA (Skype For Asterisk) is a proprietary code while the reverse engineered Skype source code has just been recently released to the public isn't.
How do you propose we change Skypes code?
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It blows me away that something as widely used as Skype can just be "bought" by M$ and the users have no choice, no voice in the matter, they have to put up or shut up. |
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I am sure that after July 26 the price for Skype Connect will RI$E... |
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