TekSavvy's new AUP bans servers?

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Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:16	TekSavvy's new AUP bans servers? From the new AUP that went live today: »www.teksavvy.com/en/legal/aup.asp said by TekSavvy AUP : VI. NETWORK / SECURITY In addition to the general terms set out above, you are prohibited from using the Service for activities that include, but are not limited to: * Sharing of your Account userid(s) and password(s) for the purpose of concurrent login sessions from the same Account. * Causing an Internet host to become unable to effectively service requests from other hosts. * Running and/or hosting server applications including but not limited to HTTP, FTP, POP, SMTP, Proxy/SOCKS, and NNTP. * Analyzing or penetrating an Internet host's security mechanisms. * Forging any part of the TCP/IP packet headers in any way. * Committing any act which may compromise the security of your Internet host in any way. (emphasis mine) The old AUP, which was part of the old terms (»secure.teksavvy.com/en/termspolicies.asp) did not include this language... There is also some rather specific stuff, like forbidding posting usenet or forum messages with long signatures, or how breaking the rules of a forum like DSLR is grounds to have your service terminated. Also, performing any sort of security auditing is forbidden, so we're not allowed to use nmap at all, even on our own servers, it would seem. The new ToS are also incredibly long and Bell-like. I didn't see anything particularly objectionable except frequent mentions of ETFs, which are also new to TekSavvy... I understand the desire to "cover your ass", but this goes way beyond that into "control how you use the net" territory. -- Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org
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alpovs join:2009-08-08	Is this an April fool's joke?
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El Quintron ... a faint odor of kerosene Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·voip.ms ·WIND Mobile ·TekSavvy Cable	said by alpovs: Is this an April fool's joke? Sounds like it... if not I'll have to question my status as eternal Teksavvy fanboi -- The trouble with nude dancing is that not everything stops when the music does.
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Angelo The Network Guy Premium join:2002-06-18	it's real guys
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Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:16	reply to Guspaz Got a reply from Rocky about it: said by Rocky : @guspaz its across all services. Some we don't control. Will look at seeing it get clarified. -- Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org
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AkFubar Nothing is more constant than change join:2005-02-28 Toronto CAN.	reply to Guspaz spamming customer email?? Could be but I would hope not. Mebbe just a limited broadcast.
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mlerner Premium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5	reply to Guspaz With AVP coming into effect I will have to look at my options. Paying for static IPs and with this restriction makes it pointless.
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Angelo The Network Guy Premium join:2002-06-18	its for a better experience have fun guys.. with a useless service ... i mean a BELL service....
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El Quintron ... a faint odor of kerosene Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·voip.ms ·WIND Mobile ·TekSavvy Cable	reply to Guspaz said by Guspaz: There is also some rather specific stuff, like forbidding posting usenet or forum messages with long signatures, or how breaking the rules of a forum like DSLR is grounds to have your service terminated. Also, performing any sort of security auditing is forbidden, so we're not allowed to use nmap at all, even on our own servers, it would seem. The part you just quoted there is completely ludicrous and some of it (conditions on posting messages to online forums and Usenet) are unenforceable. I really don't get how Teksavvy wants to get tangled up in that, and alienate its users who are "tech savvy" @Teksavvy staff now would be a good time for some clarification/. -- The trouble with nude dancing is that not everything stops when the music does.
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mlerner Premium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5	reply to Angelo said by Angelo: its for a better experience have fun guys.. with a useless service ... i mean a BELL service.... Even so.. I got no notice that my service is subject to Bell policies and that it is legal. Until that changes I will presume that TekSavvy is just being stupid.
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El Quintron ... a faint odor of kerosene Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·voip.ms ·WIND Mobile ·TekSavvy Cable	said by mlerner: Even so.. I got no notice that my service is subject to Bell policies and that it is legal. Until that changes I will presume that TekSavvy is just being stupid. QFT +1 -- The trouble with nude dancing is that not everything stops when the music does.
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aver join:2007-12-03 Kitchener, ON 2 edits	reply to Guspaz :P
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justsomeguy join:2007-10-08 N5M3Z3	reply to Guspaz Wow, this was one of Teksavvy's saving graces. I know a lot of people who would have left Teksavvy if it wasn't for them allowing servers. I'll guess they will be looking at other options or just hoping that teksavvy doesn't police their new restrictions.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to Angelo said by Angelo: its for a better experience have fun guys.. with a useless service ... i mean a BELL service.... Huh? If affects me and I don't use anything which touches Bell.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to aver said by aver: The new AUP seems to go against the culture of Teksavvy and why we all support them so much. What TSI stood for is really going downhill.
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Radar73 join:2008-01-20 Ajax, ON	reply to Guspaz said by Guspaz: * Running and/or hosting server applications including but not limited to HTTP, FTP, POP, SMTP, Proxy/SOCKS, and NNTP. Unbelievable. What a terrible move.
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AMailer Aaron DM join:2004-04-03	reply to Guspaz Clearly its a joke - the entire "IV. NEWSGROUPS / DISCUSSION FORUMS" section especially
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CptGemini Inside your computer Premium join:2004-11-29 Corpus Christi, TX kudos:6	reply to Radar73 If they really wanted to block those services they could block those ports. TWC here used to do it for HTTP servers.
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Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:16	reply to Guspaz I'll just reinforce that Rocky did reply about this, and said he's going to try to clarify it; he said that the new language was because of services that they don't control. -- Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org
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mlerner Premium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5	reply to AMailer said by AMailer: Clearly its a joke - the entire "IV. NEWSGROUPS / DISCUSSION FORUMS" section especially If it is a joke they should not have modified the original page.
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