estover4Premium
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Valencia, PA
kudos:1 | reply to howie1
Re: avast! Pirate Talk It is an antivirus package, not a game.
With all the rouge antivirus/security packages that are installed drive by style, is it a good idea for a persons AV to just change one day? And for those that say have a little fun, would you like to answer calls all day asking what happened to AVAST, I think I have an infection?
This is more of the same crap like the url shortener services, dumbing people down so that they will click on anything. I can understand the tweeters and the facebooks doing something like this, but not my security package.
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| said by estover4:It is an antivirus package, not a game. With all the rouge antivirus/security packages that are installed drive by style, is it a good idea for a persons AV to just change one day? And for those that say have a little fun, would you like to answer calls all day asking what happened to AVAST, I think I have an infection? You're blowing this way out of proportion. It's a language pack, and you have to install it deliberately - so there shouldn't be any "calls all day." It's in no way a drive-by.
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estover4Premium
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Valencia, PA
kudos:1 | You are assuming that in every location there is only one person using a computer. You are not looking at the big picture.
A) multiple people using a PC the next person to access to PC has no idea, it just a language pack.
2) Why is a security software maker encouraging people to install crap that affects there product? So the next time a user is confronted with a real drive-by, like the national martian month language pack, they will think less of it and click away.
I made the same argument about the URL shorting services.
If the same companies that are there to protect the user on the internet, act the same way as the bad guys that are trying to infect users, how does the AVERAGE (not you or me) user come to know what is OK to click on and what is not?
How would you explain to a user that was just infected by a rough Antivirus 2010 "virus" it was the what they did, when AVAST is asking users to do the same thing that would get them infected if it were the Antivirus 2010 app?
I have the same issue with banks changing the look of there webpage and logon info page. How is anyone to know what is the real deal anymore if even the people that are the good guys are doing the same thing as teh bad guys?
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| And here again you're making assumptions.
In situations where multiple users access pcs (like work), the installation of things like language packs is controlled by IT - or should be.
I don't see offering a choice as being entirely like "the bad guys trying to infect users." But in both cases, you the user have to make a decision - and that frequently comes down to the source of the offering. If you're already using Avast, one would hope you have more faith in them than someone you've not heard of.
Honestly, I thought I was [s]paranoid[/s] cautious when it came to security, but you're taking this to a whole new level. If I live in France, should I also beware the French language pack? |
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estover4Premium
join:2004-03-16
Valencia, PA
kudos:1
1 edit | Pot meet kettle.
You are assuming all companies that have more than 3 users and 2 computers have on staff IT or can afford the costs that come with that.
I stand by my reasoning. The people that purport to protect us should take there actions a little more serious than the makers of an IM client.
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kudos:16 | reply to estover4
said by estover4:You are assuming that in every location there is only one person using a computer. You are not looking at the big picture. A) multiple people using a PC the next person to access to PC has no idea, it just a language pack. 2) Why is a security software maker encouraging people to install crap that affects there product? So the next time a user is confronted with a real drive-by, like the national martian month language pack, they will think less of it and click away. 1) I have five computers in my house and all of them the users all have limited rights. I am the only Admin of all the computers in my house so i know for a fact i am the only person who can and does make any changes to any system or software on them.
2) Again like others have stated it's all in fun, plus as stated above users should not be able to change anything pertaining to the security of the system unless they are the Admin.
said by estover4:How would you explain to a user that was just infected by a rough Antivirus 2010 "virus" it was the what they did, when AVAST is asking users to do the same thing that would get them infected if it were the Antivirus 2010 app? Again the user should have a limited account on that system any way and should not be worried about what the Admin has done unless it interferes with their work. In which it shouldn't in any way that i can see.
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estover4Premium
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Valencia, PA
kudos:1 | I give up. You are expecting the average user of a PC bought at Best buy to be more involved, knowledgeable and prudent about the security of their system than you are about the manufacture of a software package that is designed to help protect the user!!!!!!
My head is spinning. As the admin of your house, how many times are you called to allow an install of an update or in
Forget it. I quit.
You are all right. It makes me more money, so why should I care? I must have made my way into the pub, I thought this was the security forum.
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MarkAWBarry WhitePremium
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1 edit | said by estover4:I give up. You are expecting the average user of a PC bought at Best buy to be more involved, knowledgeable and prudent about the security of their system than you are about the manufacture of a software package that is designed to help protect the user!!!!!! My head is spinning. As the admin of your house, how many times are you called to allow an install of an update or in Forget it. I quit. You are all right. It makes me more money, so why should I care? I must have made my way into the pub, I thought this was the security forum. I am never called to allow an install of an update in my house my network is set up to do that and even if that doesn't happen i take care of all up dates myself. Next question.
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join:2005-12-11
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said by estover4:You are assuming that in every location there is only one person using a computer. Then the update process ought to run in the background and only install definition updates automatically. Why give the users the ability to change the way the AV works?
Edit: Woops. I posted before reading the rest of the thread.
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said by estover4:I give up. Forget it. I quit. We'll see - whoops - spoke to soon. He's back.
You know this isn't something that's foisted on you - you have to consciously know about and make this change.
So - un-wad your panties, and carry on with your bland, grey little world. Maybe there's a Dilbert cartoon out there that will make you smirk - if only briefly. |
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Valhalla
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Re: avast! Pirate Talk
Pirate Skin Avast circa v4 |
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It is an antivirus package, not a game.
Interesting comment.
Tell me do you change themes on your OS or web browser?
After all they are also security related.
I do recall not that long ago skins were available for Avast including a pirate skin. Why no complaining from you then as well as the other kill joys?
»www.avast.com/download-skins
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