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dtheduke

join:2001-08-09
Leesburg, FL

Renting CD'S

Sorry if this has been asked but it is a question i need to ask. Is it legal to open up a storefront and rent music CD'S like Blockbuster rents DVD'S. I have never seen any store like this where i live. Maybe there are stores like this but not in my state. Does the MPAA stop someone from doing this. I would like to know.


drslash
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There is a reason that there are no CD rental stores, it is a business model that won't work. As far as the legal aspect of your question, it can probably be done. I don't think the business concept is feasible.



John Galt
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reply to dtheduke
There is a viable market if you are near a college or university...I know of several. They provide other goods and services, though. CD rentals are not their only business.
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davidg
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reply to dtheduke
the cost to purchase the CD's for use in a rental operation would be outrageous. a friend of mine owned a couple of video stores and he said that movies which you could buy in the store for 20-30.00 cost him 100-150.00 PER copy. i would imagine CD's would be similar. plus, how would you make any money? very few people would pay to rent them, if anyone would.
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dtheduke

join:2001-08-09
Leesburg, FL

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reply to drslash
It sounds like a great business to me. Buy CD'S either used from people or new at 11 to 15 dollars a pop. Then rent them for 4 dollars. You can make back that money plus easily. With the new music you could really do good.



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said by dtheduke:

Then rent them for 4 dollars.
Do people in Leesburg, FL live in the past or something? Why would you rent a CD for $4 when you can get music for free online?
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dtheduke

join:2001-08-09
Leesburg, FL

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Well not everyone gets music free online. Every week you look at the soundscan numbers and new releases sell between 50 to 100 thousand copies a week.



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said by dtheduke:

new releases sell between 50 to 100 thousand copies a week.
It's a dying business:



If you're going to do this, you should try selling Pokemon cards and Chia Pets, too.
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The Pig
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reply to dtheduke
You can not do anything involving money and music without permission.


c1590

join:2010-02-28

You can rent my old collection of pogs while your at it.



EUS
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reply to dtheduke
Considering libraries do what you want to do for free, this may not be a viable business plan.



Frank
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reply to dtheduke

said by dtheduke:

Sorry if this has been asked but it is a question i need to ask. Is it legal to open up a storefront and rent music CD'S like Blockbuster rents DVD'S. I have never seen any store like this where i live. Maybe there are stores like this but not in my state. Does the MPAA stop someone from doing this. I would like to know.
yeah , it's called a used record store..

ie: you sell a cd at $5 and then buy it back at $3.

you just rented the cd for $2.
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AbBaZaBbA
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reply to davidg

said by davidg:

the cost to purchase the CD's for use in a rental operation would be outrageous. a friend of mine owned a couple of video stores and he said that movies which you could buy in the store for 20-30.00 cost him 100-150.00 PER copy. i would imagine CD's would be similar. plus, how would you make any money? very few people would pay to rent them, if anyone would.
I've heard this too but i've also heard that redbox was buying dvd's from walmarts/targets when the studios shut them out of bulk purchases.

First sale doctrine should apply I would think.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale···einstein


Mchart
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join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL

reply to c1590

said by c1590:

You can rent my old collection of pogs while your at it.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETS5Txk_Sto

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talz13

join:2006-03-15
Avon, OH

reply to AbBaZaBbA

said by AbBaZaBbA:

First sale doctrine should apply I would think.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale···einstein
Not if the reversal on software first sale doctrine application holds up. They'll just make sure that you have a 'license' to play the music on the medium for personal listening, and make it illegal to sell it, just like AutoCAD is trying to do with their software...


CoxTech1
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reply to dtheduke

said by dtheduke:

Sorry if this has been asked but it is a question i need to ask. Is it legal to open up a storefront and rent music CD'S like Blockbuster rents DVD'S. I have never seen any store like this where i live. Maybe there are stores like this but not in my state. Does the MPAA stop someone from doing this. I would like to know.
I think you may encounter licensing issues attempting to do this.

I remember once taking a big stack of old CD's to a local shop that deals in used CD's to sell. The manager quickly took my CD's and organized them into 2 stacks, one stack being those from BMG music club and the other stack no BMG. Then he pointed out on the BMG discs that they're specifically labeled "Not for resale" and therefore couldn't buy them.

You might want to look at the licensing fine print on some of what you have now and see if there's any exclusions prohibiting rental. DVD's for example are usually contain fine print saying they're for private in-home use only.

dentman42
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join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH

said by CoxTech1:

said by dtheduke:

Sorry if this has been asked but it is a question i need to ask. Is it legal to open up a storefront and rent music CD'S like Blockbuster rents DVD'S. I have never seen any store like this where i live. Maybe there are stores like this but not in my state. Does the MPAA stop someone from doing this. I would like to know.
I think you may encounter licensing issues attempting to do this.

I remember once taking a big stack of old CD's to a local shop that deals in used CD's to sell. The manager quickly took my CD's and organized them into 2 stacks, one stack being those from BMG music club and the other stack no BMG. Then he pointed out on the BMG discs that they're specifically labeled "Not for resale" and therefore couldn't buy them.

You might want to look at the licensing fine print on some of what you have now and see if there's any exclusions prohibiting rental. DVD's for example are usually contain fine print saying they're for private in-home use only.
Funny. I have a few BMG CDs - they were all aquired used at one of those places...

You can also obliterate the "not for resale" from the packaging and the disc (rubbing alcohol will usually remove labels from a disc).


ROCINANTE
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reply to drslash
The business model does not work because the rental price is too close to the selling price. VHS rentals were successful because the price of tapes were $50 and above for many years.
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BoulderHill1

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reply to dtheduke
I would agree with many here that in todays world it would just not be a good business model.

Back in the 80's there was video rental place here in my area that did rent CDs. This was '83-'84 era. At that time there was no means to copy CDs and there was no internet to obtain music through. In addition to CDs they also rented LaserDisc movies and of course VHS and Beta tapes.

I would go there quite often and rent CD's and then record them to cassette for use in the car. Remember cassettes?

I do not recall when they stopped this practice or when they went out of business. Seems to me it was probably late 80s or possibly early 90's. Anyway place is long gone now.



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reply to dtheduke

said by dtheduke:

Does the MPAA stop someone from doing this. I would like to know.
I'm going to say with 100% authority that the MPAA will not stop you from renting music CD's.

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