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 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | I couldn't disagree more with this whole discussion of "endless price hikes" and that cable prices are expensive.
For starters..there hasn't been biannual price hikes in cable tv prices that i'm aware of. Perhaps a cable operator raised the price of another service or piece of equipment..ie: Comcast raising their modem price from 3.00 to 5.00 but along with that came a massive nationwide upgrade to docsis 3.0 and doubling of peoples speeds. Not to mention free routers along with that. But that doesn't mean they raised their tv prices twice in one year in any year that I've known.
And second..the services that companies like Comcast provide are NOT expensive. They are one of the best values out there that any consumer purchases on any day.
You can take an entire family..Mom, Dad and all the kids..
and give them 24/7 internet access..unlimted calling nationwide with all the calling features..and 24/7 television with hundreds of channels..hd..on demand..dvr..all the premium channels...and for that ENTIRE FAMILY..you are talking about a service that costs maybe 5 or 6 dollars a day.
Folks.you aren't going to go out and buy one happy meal for the little kid for that kind of money anymore.
Much less what an entire family can use and enjoy.
Someone thinks nothing of stopping in the corner store and dropping 2 dollars MORE than that...on a pack of cigarettes.
Put 2 gallons of gas in your tank and you arrive at that figure.
Buy a loaf of bread and gallon of milk...and you're at that amount as well.
But what we are talking about is 24/7 access for an entire family..half the price of even one movie ticket..to give someone not only ONE service..but all of these.
For everyone to use and enjoy all day long.
These services are NOT expensive. They are one of the greatest values out there that consumers can buy.
Some people spend so much time trying to find cost "savings" around that fact and wind up spending more trying to piece everything else together from different places and providers..rather than looking to a Comcast or whomever for their bundle offerings. And I'm not just saying Comcast here..I'm saying Time Warner..Verizon fios..AT&T Uverse..and whomever.
They ALL have a very good deal going for consumers. And they ALL represent a very good value in this economy....compared to so much else that we as consumers spend our money on.
Is your internet connection worth about the 2.00 a day that it costs not only you..but your ENTIRE family? In my mind it certainly is. And that's what it costs when priced into these bundles. And it's the same across the board..from tv to phone.
These providers are not expensive. Not at all.
In fact..it can be argued that they're inexpensive when looking at so many other things. How about that 100.00 a month cell phone bill? People think nothing of dropping that for some 3 inch screen but somehow think that phone..tv and internet in a bundle at 150.00 is a rip off.
It's not. It's downright one of the best consumer values going today.
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| Re: I couldn't disagree more said by Rick:you are talking about a service that costs maybe 5 or 6 dollars a day.
That's too expensive. That's triple the price of my water bill. It's also triple the price of my sewer bill. It's even more than my NJ-is-highest-in-the-nation auto insurance.
I can't afford that.
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|  badtripI heart the East BayPremium
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Albany, CA | So what youre telling us is if we drop cable we will be able to buy more cigarettes, gas, food as well as maybe take our families out for a movie now again?
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| Re: I couldn't disagree more said by badtrip:So what youre telling us is if we drop cable we will be able to buy more cigarettes, gas, food as well as maybe take our families out for a movie now again? Do I buy gas so I can drive to work, or do I get cable TV? | |
| | |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: I couldn't disagree more Easy. You drive off with out paying, quit your job, get public assistance and constantly try to steal cable service.
At least that seems to be the plan of many around here.
Oh I forgot: I left out: Drink lots of beer.
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| That $5-$6 may be reasonable for a family of 5 or 6 people. But with the dissolution of the nuclear family, lots of household units are smaller than this and can't bring to bear such economy of scale.
If the pay-for-tv folks want to woo back small or single households like mine, they'll have to start offering customizable, a-la-carte plans that give me just what I want.
As for the cell phone bill, $100 a month isn't uncommon, but that's changing fast; prepaid voice and data are all over the news these days. | |
| | | RickPremium,MVM
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Waterbury, CT | Re: I couldn't disagree more said by J E F F: The problem is that prices keep going up on a regular basis w/o and real reason why - or if there is a reason, it's because they have added channels to the line-up that most people would never view, yet everyone has to pay for it. Quite often, too, the companies will shift channels around forcing you to upgrade a package to continue to get your channel. To get my fix of CNN, I must take it along with 30 other channels I rarely watch. And this is just simply incorrect. In many instances companies like Comcast have modified and even lowered prices over the last few years. My 5.00 to 6.00 price was but one example..there are bundles as low as 79.95 that include phone..include internet and include cable..and that includes CNN as well.
And so, that economy bundle price works out to be about 2.66 cents. Less than a cup of coffee and donut that people think nothing of paying for at Dunkin donuts.
These companies..whether it be Comcast..TW..Verizon..and whomever..offering these kinds of value packages are not expensive. If someone determines that they can't afford the 5.00 or 6.00 per day..then it is they who can't afford it..not that the company is asking too much for what they're delivering.
Because no matter what you want to compare to it..there are many things that we as consumers pay for each and every day that deliver nowhere near the value that these packages do. I don't know about you..but my internet connection SAVES me money. It's the kind of thing that can pay for itself many times over. How many letters have you mailed since you got email? How many stamps have you saved? How many newspapers..magazines have you bought since having the world wide web at your disposal..and how much are you saving by not having to buy them anymore? Online shopping..price comparing..being able to shop at retailers the world over. How much does all that SAVE you and I...as consumers? And, it's made possible by that 2.66 to 6.00 per month package.
I bought my last house and saved tens of THOUSANDS of dollars..because of the research I was able to do on the internet. On that internet connection that cost so little.
I bank on line..pay bills on line..communicate on line.
How much gas do you save because of that 2.00 per month connection?
All around us...is nothing but savings. But yet people try to say that these connections and packages are expensive.
For the price of a happy meal these packages do all the above..and more. For an individual..for an entire family.
Expensive?
Not on your life.
It is pure value. The best value out there that money can buy.
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| Re: I couldn't disagree more said by Rick:In many instances companies like Comcast have modified and even lowered prices over the last few years. HA, HA, HA, HA, HA. Cablevision was charging me $54/month for a whopping 45 channels. Repeat, $54/month for 45 channels! That's not "value", it's a rip-off!! So I canceled the service entirely. Cablevision gets nothing from me now, and I've saved $650 in the past year. That's real money.
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| | | | RickPremium,MVM
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Waterbury, CT | Re: I couldn't disagree more said by Bobcat79:Repeat, $54/month for 45 channels! That's not "value", it's a rip-off!! So I canceled the service entirely. Cablevision gets nothing from me now, and I've saved $650 in the past year. That's real money. 54.00 a month...$1.80 per day. For 24/7 entertainment for you and..assuming you have one..your entire family.
I go back again to my main point and say..what else do you get as a consumer for that 1.80 cents per day?
You don't even get a small fry and Mc Double off a mcd's value menu. You'd need another .20 cents to reach that point.
You barely get one can of soda out of a vending machine..much less 24/7 entertainment for an entire family.
And..you'd be lucky to get 1/2 loaf of bread.
Or a quart of milk.
And that 1.80 is on the HIGH side because you're indicating buying that tv service a la carte. From a company like comcast for 79.95 you could get that TV package..PLUS..a local phone line PLUS a T1 Speed cable connection.
And that's not a special promo. That is the regular price of their economy value bundle.
Which again goes back to my point that those saying that these providers are "expensive" and are "continually" raising prices are completely ignoring the facts...or, simply aren't aware of them.
The fact of the matter is..these enormous values are out there as everyday pricing from these providers. I'm not saying that everyone can afford everything a cable or telco company has to offer and for some, that 6.00 a day when added up over a month is going to be too pricey for their budget.
But..they should also look at what else their buying before forming and stating a conclusion that these companies are charging too much. 5 or 6 dollars per day for all that the top tier bundles offer is not "too much". It may be a case of an individual not being able to afford it in this economy. But..there are lower priced solutions then such as the one I outlined above. 79.95 for all three services works out to 2.66 cents per day. And that is downright cheap for all that person gets...and what it must cost these companies to deliver the services.
In my view..people who choose to buy services a la carte are the ones making the mistake most of the time. Rather than pay for a bundle where the real value is..they go out and pay almost that price for tv service alone. That's where the mistake is most often times..not in what the companies have to offer if they took the time to inquire and really price out what is available.
In any event....I've made my point.
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| Re: I couldn't disagree more said by Cable TV shill :
what else do you get as a consumer for that 1.80 cents per day?
We already answered: Water, gas hot water, sewer service, DSL service ($1.07/day), cell phone service ($1.33/day), or home insurance ($1.11/day).
And Cablevision has no such 79.95 bundle. For something other than broadcast basic, three services on 3 TVs will cost $150.15/month plus taxes.
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| | | | | | | | | |  Frankis chillingPremium
join:2000-11-03
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3 edits | that 79.95 bundle you speak of is probably just a promo that expires after a few months.
cablevision has one of those too, and at a better value than comcast's, but not many people know about it.
for $69.95 a month I get
phone service w/free national long distance, voicemail, caller id, etc.
30mbps down /5mbps boost internet w/free web hosting and the ability to run servers from my connection if I so desire
cable tv service w/free dvr
for a year.
after a year it goes up to about $95. After two years it goes up alot more.
of course, they only offer this in areas that have fios  | |
| | | | |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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kudos:4 | So your point is that it is A-ok for cable companies to just increase their price annually? | |
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| |  J E F FWhatta Ya Think About Dat?Premium
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| Not where I am...we have one cable company or I can select a satellite service. Problem with the satellite is that they offer local service as "Toronto" where as the cable company offers local as "Kitchener" - so I still get local network TV (if I want to watch the news) and I also get the local weather.
You can get Internet, home phone and cable bundled for as low was $79.25 (about the same as Comcast) plus taxes and fee's...but you're not getting much.
Of course, where talking about Community Antenna Television (CATV) and not Internet or home phone - both of which generally give you better value than they did 5 or 10 or 15 years ago. Although I do not love the fee structure that they set-up, it still beats the days of dial-up. However, cable prices have continued to out pace everything else...and that is the gripe that most people have. Myself, I feel that I am sorta forced to buy the extra service just to make it worthwhile.
(My monthly bill is around $210 - that includes Internet, CATV, Home Phone, Wireless phone and Wireless Internet, taxes and fee's)
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