 dmxrob6Premium
join:2005-06-24
Boonville, MO
 ·AT&T Southwest
| Running dedicated line for DSL Always looking to "make sure things are in their place" and eliminate any potential failure areas, I am thinking of running a dedicated line from the NID to the DSL modem. Lucky for me the NID is directly outside from the laundry room where my DSL modem and other gear reside.
I'm purchasing a Corning whole-house DSL filter, so I can ditch the individual filters as well.
The million dollar question is do I use Cat5e or regulat Cat3 for the run from the NID to the modem? It's like probably 15 feet max. I think Cat5e is overkill and not necessary, but I do see different opinions out there.
Anyone have any feedback? I have a spool of Cat3 and a spool of Cat5e so doesn't matter to me either which way. Just hate to waste Cat5e if it isn't going to do anything but make me "feel good". |
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| Use the CAT3. If for some reason there are issue with it then upgrade to the CAT5e. There isn't anything in that area that the tighter twists of CAT5e are going to help shield out are there? |
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dmxrob6Premium
join:2005-06-24
Boonville, MO | There is the 220V electric dryer, and the 120V washing machine in there. On the other side of the wall is the kitchen with an electric stove and microwave along that wall. |
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 billaustinthey call me Mr. BillPremium,MVM
join:2001-10-13
North Las Vegas, NV
kudos:3 | reply to dmxrob6
Cat3 is all that is 'necessary' for what you are doing. Many recommend Cat5 (or better) because it is better at rejecting interference. It is usually not a problem, especially for that short of a run. I would probably just run Cat3 from the new filter to an inside jack for the modem. |
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 DennisPremium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL
kudos:5 | reply to dmxrob6
If I had a spool of both then I would just use Cat5. Even if it is overkill I'd err on the side of caution. |
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 John GaltForward, MarchPremium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:5 | reply to dmxrob6
Do they run Cat5 from the CO or RTU...?
Hint: No
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:8 | reply to dmxrob6
In the grand scheme of things..... it doesn't matter. |
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My 3.0/768 DSL runs through an at least 10 years old traditional phone wire (~50 - 60 ft) and it's fine, so I think Cat5e would be way-way overkill.
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 SmokChsrWho let the magic smoke out?Premium
join:2006-03-17
Saint Augustine, FL | reply to dmxrob6
Cat3 will work just fine, cat5 will work just fine as well. with a distance of 15' the chances of seeing a difference is very slight. If you were going 100' you might see a difference. |
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when my house was being built, the builder used CAT5 all over.
most new home being built use CAT5 now....
aside from being cheap and being commonly used now, go with CAT5...CAT3 is old
some even recommend CAT6, but that, is way overkill.... |
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 49528867Premium
join:2010-04-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
kudos:3
1 edit | reply to John Galt
said by John Galt:Do they run Cat5 from the CO or RTU...? Hint: No I have a good deal of Telco outside plant experience and can assure you much of the typical outside plant cabling is “Cat” cable however it is not Cat 5 or even Cat 3 it’s Cat-a-strophic as such losing sleep over whether to use Cat 3 or 5 for the last few hundred feet is silly.
What really counts is having a “single” run of un-filtered inside wiring from the NID to the DSL modem as this eliminates the possibility of having the normal home wiring of multiple IW’s becoming near end bridged taps which can wreck the DSL signal.
Wayne
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 ThespisI'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX | reply to medbuyer
said by medbuyer:go with CAT5...CAT3 is old Cat 3 is "old"? It's copper wire. For his purposes it makes no difference at all.
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49528867Premium
join:2010-04-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
kudos:3 | reply to dmxrob6
said by dmxrob6:I'm purchasing a Corning whole-house DSL filter, so I can ditch the individual filters as well. That is an excellent splitter and has internal surge suppression for the DSL modem.
The million dollar question is do I use Cat5e or regulat Cat3 for the run from the NID to the modem? It's like probably 15 feet max. I think Cat5e is overkill and not necessary, but I do see different opinions out there. At any distance CAT 3 will do fine and is more than sufficient for DSL service.
Wayne
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 jaaPremium
join:2000-06-13
kudos:2
 ·Optimum Online
 ·Vonage
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What is a whole-house DSL filter? A friend installed his DSL modem right by the NID. He just put a regular old DSL splitter/filter into the NID, and then plugged the "house" into the filtered side, and his DSL modem into the unfiltered side.
Should I suggest a different filter?
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 mikepdDiscoveryPremium,MVM
join:2000-10-26
New Port Richey, FL
 ·Verizon FiOS
1 edit | A whole-house DSL filter is one that goes into the NID as opposed to putting filters on every phone jack except the one that has the DSL signal on it.
It is easier to do it that way and also has better signal interference properties than a regular line filter.
I had a whole-house filter put in by Verizon back in 2000 when I first got DSL but it was no longer needed when I switched to FIOS in 2009.
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said by Thespis:said by medbuyer:go with CAT5...CAT3 is old Cat 3 is "old"? It's copper wire. For his purposes it makes no difference at all. probably in your neck of the woods, CAT3 is still popular but in my part of town, CAT5 is the standard....
did I mention that it's cheap? |
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 tschmidtPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
kudos:8
·G4 Communications
·Fairpoint Commun..
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As others have posted Either Cat3 or Cat5e is fine for DSL. If you are upgrading structured wiring I would use Cat5e so that in the future you have the option of using it for Ethernet rather then just DSL.
From you post that does not appear to be the case you are just installing a short run from new POTS/DSL splitter to modem. Use up the Cat 3 since it is not good for anything else. It is still much better then the twisted pair the DSL traveled over for thousands of feet from the Central Office to your house.
/tom |
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Use Cat5e since you have it. No point in using older cat3.
I did the same thing at my place but I'm running a 75ft cable for the small price difference I used Cat6 Shielded. Overkill? yes Price difference over cat6 just a few dollars so why not. |
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I would use cat5 its going to be better down the road. You also know when telephone company comes out and installs a new jack they use cat5 instead of cat 3. |
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| cat5 will work. Your only using 1 pair for phone right? |
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