 Rogue WolfReally Ties The Room Together
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY | reply to TheMG
Re: What A Rip-Off....$267 For Gas Tank Filler Neck? said by Xstar_Lumini:**EDIT** Darn I just saw StNickless' link and the price of $92 but I have already ordered it for $140  At least this way you're only out $50 instead of $160.
said by TheMG:said by Technogeez:Just don't forget to empty the tank before you weld the new neck on... Empty tank is more dangerous than a tank full of gasoline. Residual vapors + air + sparks/heat = BOOOM!!! Safest procedure is to fill the tank completely with a non-flammable liquid. Precisely. Gasoline is flammable; gasoline vapors are explosive. WORLD of difference. Fill the tank with water before any sort of work- that'll be a lot easier than filling in the crater in your garage floor.
--
Justin Timberlake brought sexy back. I'm putting it away again. |
|
matt5
join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY | reply to Xstar_Lumini
said by Xstar_Lumini:Actually did you know that GM subsidizes the salt used by cities for the roads in winter? Decades ago the cities were reluctant to use salt because it would be expensive, GM then figured that they would sell more cars if salt was thrown on the roads and ravage their bodies. My marketing teacher told me this. I think he/she was trying to prove the point of people would believe anything when you try to sell them on an idea...
I aint buying that at all... what is cheaper than salt to use then? |
|
 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand
 ·Cybersurf Intern..
| reply to matt5
said by matt5:Why blame toyota for the rust caused by your local governments salting? (they do have stuff that will deice the road and not rust metal) You could use Calcium Chloride, but the cost is huge compared to salt, and it has it's own environmental issues.
--
Jake: "Four fried chickens, and a coke" Elwood: "And some dry white toast, pleas |
|
 shanerPremium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB | Or you could do what we do in Alberta; use rocks. Cars last forever, but you have to get a new windshield every couple of years.
 |
|
davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | reply to matt5
said by matt5:I aint buying that at all... what is cheaper than salt to use then? Nothing?
(The choice is not necessarily "use salt or use X", "use salt or don't" is also possible).
Mind you, I'm not sure I buy it either. Sounds urban-legendy, though Snopes came up empty. |
|
|
|
 MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium
join:2001-02-25
Sugar Land, TX | reply to Xstar_Lumini
Then it must be true!
--
A silent weapon for a quiet war. |
|
TheMGPremium
join:2007-09-04
Canada
kudos:2
1 edit | reply to matt5
said by matt5:I aint buying that at all... what is cheaper than salt to use then? A sand and fine gravel mix.
Used a lot around here as it's cheap and besides the salt loses it's effectiveness at the very cold temperatures we sometimes get.
Works very well. Very effective at improving traction on icy roads. Downside is the obvious spring street cleanup required. |
|
1 edit | reply to Archer0T8
said by Archer0T8:I know it's too late to help out now, but give Dom's Auto Parts (» www.domsauto.com/) out near Bowmanville a try whenever you need parts. I don't see a filler neck for your RAV4 listed in their parts list, but you never know. I hope they are not like Standard Auto Wreckers from Pickering whom every single time have sold me a part that doesn't work, including a A/C compressor which I shipped overseas and had to pay $60 for a courier to bring it back and another $60 to ship a working one. Last time they sold me a non-functioning master control switch.
said by TheMG:said by matt5:I aint buying that at all... what is cheaper than salt to use then? A sand and fine gravel mix. Used a lot around here as it's cheap and besides the salt loses it's effectiveness at the very cold temperatures we sometimes get. Works very well. Very effective at improving traction on icy roads. Downside is the obvious spring street cleanup required. It snows like 25 times each winter in Edmonton, do you end up with 20 inches of sand and dirt in your city in April? Where does all that accumulated sand/gravel go? |
|
 joakoPremium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
kudos:5
 ·Comcast
| reply to Xstar_Lumini
Sigh, I've been saying this forever.
Parts at the dealer's retail counter are always a rip off. The "list price" on your invoice is also false -- you were probably charged 20-50% above list price. The manufacture sets the list price and the parts are sold to dealers below list. Dealer sell to other shops below list.
Search online and you can get the same part, probably with overnight shipping, for less than the dealer's retail counter charged:
»www.google.com/search?q=site%3At···irefox-a
I found on one of those sites (they show the real list price) Filler pipe 1996-2000 List Price: $163.85, Your price $128.05. Overnight shipping what $30? $60 = is excessive but its still cheaper than your local dealer. Another Toyota dealer can sell the part for $128.05 and make a profit. So without a doubt it goes to prove the retail parts counter at your Toyota dealer is ripping you off. Big time.
--
PRescott7-2097 |
|
MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium
join:2001-02-25
Sugar Land, TX
1 edit | Not every dealer sells above list price to walk in customers. I've been selling parts for over a decade and I have never sold as much as a clip above list price. If your dealer engages in this practice, its on them.
As far as your point about parts being sold below list price, how is this some sort of revelation? Any merchandise that is wholesaled is sold below list price.
My biggest body shops normally receive 30% under list price, and dealer to dealer sales are most often conducted at 15% above cost in my market.
I've always wondered why people throw a big stink because they know they're "getting ripped off" at the parts house, yet willingly submit to being gouged in other areas with nary a whisper. Power companies, supermarkets, you name it, they're all gouging the shit out of you.
You can always choose to take your business elsewhere if you feel that you are being ripped off, but it isn't hard for me to say that the pricing on most parts is fair.
--
A silent weapon for a quiet war. |
|
 10825447Premium
join:2001-02-26
Tempe, AZ
kudos:3 | reply to Xstar_Lumini
Find a local "pick a part" junk yard. You could probably find one really cheap.
--
Sarcasm, confusing stupid people since 1869 |
|
joakoPremium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Comcast
| reply to Mentat
$6.64 for a brake disc screw that lists for $1.38 is fair? It also seems the gouging is worse for non-maintenance parts. Things like filters don't get the insane markup for some reason (same dealer charge $12.86 for a list price 11.85 filter).
I am not naming names because it's a widespread practice. I've never been to a dealer that didn’t gouge on parts by default.
--
PRescott7-2097 |
|
MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium
join:2001-02-25
Sugar Land, TX | Notice that I did not condone the selling of merchandise above list price. It sounds to me like you need to change dealers.
Also, maintenance items carry a larger markup than most "hard" parts, at least in GM.
--
A silent weapon for a quiet war. |
|
 CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to joako
Dealers are not trying to be part dealers - one way to do that is to mark up the price. They don't get parts in the same quantity as a nationwide parts store and hence - do nto get the same prices.
No problem with it unless they are the only place to get parts. And from what I have seen - they rarely, if ever, are the only place to get parts.
--
Brian
"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain |
|
| said by CylonRed:Dealers are not trying to be part dealers - one way to do that is to mark up the price. They don't get parts in the same quantity as a nationwide parts store and hence - do nto get the same prices. No problem with it unless they are the only place to get parts. And from what I have seen - they rarely, if ever, are the only place to get parts. seatbelt, advace dont got it, oriley(sic) dont got it. carquest, dont got it. no one here has it. so who will i end up going too? 1st im trying a junk yard.
oh those places do have seat belts, but not one that will fit with the "switch" that tells it its fastened let alone the bolt.
granted the chances youd actually need to buy one is rare. but it is an example of a part that may only be available at the dealer. |
|
MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium
join:2001-02-25
Sugar Land, TX | For a part as integral as a seat belt, why would you even want a used or aftermarket one?
A brand new, unused seat belt is worth whatever its price IMO. The only thing it does is protect your life, so why cut corners?
--
A silent weapon for a quiet war. |
|
CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to thedragonmas
First - my post was not in response to you.
Second - I did say rarely... I would say that replacing the part you need would be VERY rare indeed in which case - the part wil be more expensive as they don't have a zillion of them lying around. In 28 years of driving and I dunno - 7 cars purchased and all had many miles - never replaced anything that had anything to do with a seatbelt - I woudl say it is rare - very rare.
I DID explain a VERY valid reason why prices are higher at a dealer than elsewhere.
--
Brian
"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain |
|
1 edit | reply to Mentat
said by Mentat:For a part as integral as a seat belt, why would you even want a used or aftermarket one? A brand new, unused seat belt is worth whatever its price IMO. The only thing it does is protect your life, so why cut corners? stop gap, im not getting a ticket while i save up for the outragious price they want for one from the dealership.
said by CylonRed:First - my post was not in response to you. Second - I did say rarely... I would say that replacing the part you need would be VERY rare indeed in which case - the part wil be more expensive as they don't have a zillion of them lying around. In 28 years of driving and I dunno - 7 cars purchased and all had many miles - never replaced anything that had anything to do with a seatbelt - I woudl say it is rare - very rare. I DID explain a VERY valid reason why prices are higher at a dealer than elsewhere. first - its a forum, dont want people to reply to what you say to some one theres a private messaging system, use it.
second - i was pointing out that there are cases where the dealer is the only place to go..
the spring came out of the thing. first car ive ever seen that happen too. |
|
MentatPicard Is A CommunistPremium
join:2001-02-25
Sugar Land, TX | What kind of vehicle do you have?
--
A silent weapon for a quiet war. |
|
| reply to Xstar_Lumini
That's the new trend in parts that aren't available anywhere else but a dealer. I got a quote over over $250 for a little metal bracket that holds the evaporator canisters on my 98 Explorer.. none of the junk yards have this part, probably due to Cash for Klunkers distruction of the used parts base, so the only option is the dealer. Parts stores say they don't carry this. Right now, I made up a temporary out of wood, lashed it together with 12 awg wire until I can come up with the money. Maintaining older vehicles is becoming more expensive every year. |
|
