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ackovski

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Investor needed for Tesla Scooter!

We have created a prototype of an electric scooter with a 3 phase AC motor. Can anyone point me some investor that would be interested in investing in such thing?
»www.youtube.com/user/ShotgunEasy


gatorkram
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Re: Investor needed

Try the google search term angel funding.

Good luck.


Anonuser

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reply to ackovski
Nice conversion. I built a similar one a few years back, even used the same design scooter. I removed the stock cooling fan, piston, crank etc... and attached in the place of the forward variator. replaced the rear clutch with a bike gear, and used a chain to connect them. put a racing gear set in the rear gearbox for more speed, as the electric motor can handle the torque.

What is your conversion cost? keep in mind their are a flood of electric scooters on the market. the trick is to offer something different then everyone else and competitive price.
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ackovski

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Was your conversion with a DC or an AC motor?
The conversion cost was about $1000 total. Rough for the motor ($300), batteries ($350), transmission ($150), controller ($200) and some other expenses.
I know that there are flood of electric scooters on the market, but all I have seen are DC scooters that are not gonna last long.
The Tesla Scooter is the same design as the Tesla Roadster, but on a scooter. Other than Tesla Motors use Siemens controllers, the one we have is made by us from scratch! I have traveled about 1000 miles so far and it still runs smooth like the first time.



ackovski

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reply to gatorkram
I did found some Angles, I wrote mails and I'm waiting for an answer. Although I don't quite believe in it that much.


Bobcat79
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reply to ackovski
Are you affiliated with Tesla Motors, Inc., or are you just looking for a trademark infringement lawsuit?



nerdburg
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If it was an actual Tesla Motors scooter, it would cost like $40K.
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ackovski

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reply to Bobcat79
We are not affiliated with anyone. In fact we refused their proposal to work for them because we do not want to live in USA. Tesla Motors are just a company that assembles. They haven't got their own controller for the motor nor they produce something. They use Siemens electronics, Lotus chassis... I won't speak about the other parts like batteries and etc. About the infringements ...the Tesla name comes from Nikola Tesla and they got no property on that name, half Serbia has a Tesla second name... in fact I might have it more than them since I'm half-Serbian... right?!



ackovski

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reply to nerdburg
Yes it would cost $40K because it wouldn't be made by us. It can be made for less than $5K and I swear it would be 99% of the one they make!


Bobcat79
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reply to ackovski
You need to do more research on trademark laws. Are you in the US? You have a guaranteed lawsuit. You don't have money to build your product, how much do you want to waste on defending yourself in court?


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reply to ackovski
I suggest you start reading here - »topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/trade···ingement

quote:
Trademark law protects a trademark owner's exclusive right to use a trademark when use of the mark by another would be likely to cause consumer confusion as to the source or origin of goods.

...

A likelihood of confusion exists when consumers viewing the allegedly infringing mark would probably assume that the product or service it represents is associated with the source of a different product or service identified with a similar mark... When the alleged infringer and the trademark owner deal in competing goods or services, the court rarely needs to look beyond the mark itself; infringement will usually be found if the two marks at issue are sufficiently similar that consumer confusion can be expected.
EDIT: In case you don't know the meaning of the word "mark": "A mark may be a word, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof."

"Tesla Roadster" is a registered trademark in the United States. "Tesla Scooter", in my opinion is sufficiently similar that consumer confusion can be expected.


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reply to ackovski
Try USPTO for tesla

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McSummation
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reply to ackovski
1) Where are you located?
2) Where is your target buyer?
3) Who is your target buyer?

Without those answers, there are no answers to your question.



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reply to ackovski
nice job, and good luck.

I for one, feel that it will be homebuilts that take the lead in the next revolution of transport.
The big guys spend to much money on designing fancy "bling bling" that drive the costs up.

Instead of building with off the shelf components and keeping costs down.
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reply to McSummation

said by McSummation:

1) Where are you located?
2) Where is your target buyer?
3) Who is your target buyer?
1) Serbia it seems as they do not want to work in the US.
2) Since they want to use a US Trademark name, they likely don't want to sell in the US and they obviously don't want to work here either.
3) I'd say Serbians with disposable income.
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It says Macedonia in the YouTube profile but serbia is right next to them.
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ackovski

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reply to Bobcat79
We are from Bitola, Macedonia (Eastern Europe).



ackovski

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reply to McSummation

said by McSummation:

3) Who is your target buyer?
I depends on the investor's amount. There are possibilities of building small scooters and up to speedsters that could cost a lot.


ackovski

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reply to Doctor Olds

said by Doctor Olds:

said by McSummation:
1) Serbia it seems as they do not want to work in the US.
2) Since they want to use a US Trademark name, they likely don't want to sell in the US and they obviously don't want to work here either.
3) I'd say Serbians with disposable income.
1) Dont get us wrong. We like US! It's just too far to live and work there, away from the family and friends that we have for 30+ years.
2) We do not want to use someones Trademark. We want a Trademark of our own that would be known for quality. If the law is that strict, the name is not the problem, we can change it to whatever. It's just the idea to be mass produced.
3) Macedonians!


McSummation
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reply to ackovski
When asking about investors, the questions I asked should have been answered in the very first post. Where you are doing business has a great deal to do with whether or not an investor is interested or not.

You need to clearly state, in engineering terms, why an AC motor is better than a DC motor. Also, you need to muffle the noise, as I found it very annoying, even in the video.


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